Waiting on the PB version, Grumble. Once it gets posted, I'll start working on the order form and should have that up a couple of days later. I asked Tim to replace the rear band and shank with one more groove and a .090 base band so the two versions will be almost identical. PB might weigh a few grains more, but they'll be mighty close.

If it does weigh more at the same length, that's a ballistic advantage twist wise. Adding the thickness of the gas check should be done to keep the overall finished length exactly the same, just for grins, of course. But it does not matter because the twist requirements are not marginal. Even the old 16 twist guns will shoot these boolits with grace galore. ... felix

The gas check should add about .010" more as that's about how thick the material is. I use the cat-whisker for measuring - since they vary from .005 to .020" it's a good approximate measure.

Tim,
I'm sure you're putting a lot of time and effort into this,
THANKS!
And a /{;o) to Leftoverdj and Beagledog for getting involved in the organisation and communications!
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's eagerly awaiting an order form. Just got the balance off to Lars today for the 30cal PB plinker,,,,now, do I really really need a PB 25cal????? Dang, not unless I do a number on a Ruger and try and build a 25-20 revolter,,,, uh oh,,, he's thinkin' again! LOL.
Take care all!
R*2
Ps. Just to pass the time, I've been crankin' up my Win 71 in 348, WOWOWOW, now here's a serious lever action. 2400fps with a 200gr condom at the moment, and I'm even startin' to learn how to shoot the old girl, {).