Are they any forums bigger than this one that mainly cover just cast bullets?

Try this one: http://castboolits.gunloads.com

Cast boolits is the best!

You are very kind Paul. Cross-pollination sorta huh? Both AR & CB have vast amounts of info to share,,and the respect is mutual. That says a lot.

The U.S. Cast Bullet Association has its own web-site/forum. Just google "Cast Bullet List", or "Cast Bullet Association" for the URL(s). There is a LOT of knowledge there. That forum includes members who are cast bullet gunsmiths, professional metallurgists, lube manufacturers, mould makers, and hundreds of very experienced lead bullet shooters, all freely sharing their experiences, knowledge, and insights.

(Some may find the moderator a bit much, but the other folks on the CBA site/forum are worth meeting, for sure, if you actually want to learn a LOT about what makes cast bullets accurate, useful in different applications, etc.)

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
The U.S. Cast Bullet Association has its own web-site/forum.

Only when it suits them. They disavow that site when it suits them, too. I don't want nothing to do with them folks.

The CBA has their own forum now, seperate from "that other forum." You can access the CBA forum on the CBA website.

However, they are still using the stupid Yahoo forum software which I have no patience for. If they want to attract new members, they are going to have to get better software, which wouldn't be hard to do since open source forum software is readily available.

Snowwolfe: If you want a bit of spice with the coffee you might be drinkin' then by all means, drop in on the best site for cast bullets-Castbollits.com. Deputy Al, Sundog, Felix, even Carpetman would be glad to show you around the casting pot. Regards.

Hope I can help, folks.

I think 45 Nut's goal with Boolits is to strive to be as informative on that segment of the gun hobbies as this site is with general shooting and hunting information.

I think any forum that wants to strive to have great information on a particular topic and / or topics is great. It's the idea of bringing together a "family" to share experiences and insight.

I think you have a great forum here with awesome information, and I will try and visit regularly.

You guys remember what 'Ol Abe Lincoln said, you can can satisify all the people some of the time, but you can't BS them all of the time.

The CBA is geared toward bench shooters and they usually don't want anything to do with newbies or guys that want to use cast boolits in their hunting guns.If you've got nothing but time on your hands you'll learn a few things, but don't ask the wrong questions. You've been warned...Geo

Now, George, you wouldn't mean herr colonel, would you?...

Castboolits forum is GREAT. Just don't discuss religion, sex or politics.

"The CBA is geared toward bench shooters and they usually don't want anything to do with newbies or guys that want to use cast boolits in their hunting guns."

That old saw has been circulating for too long. The Cast Bullet Association publishes more information for hunters, plinkers and casual shooters than they do benchrest articles. Yes, every issue has results of benchrest matches, but so what? If you'll look closely, those matches contain military rifle matches, off-hand "deer hunter" matches, mid-bore & large-bore matches, etc. If you don't want to compete in the matches, don't. While I haven't shot in the postal matches for a while, the information those shooters willingly pass on is valuable to me. Maybe they don't have the best web forum, I don't know because I don't use it. They do have the best organization and publication geared solely for cast bullets.

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Originally posted by M Pursell:
"The CBA is geared toward bench shooters and they usually don't want anything to do with newbies or guys that want to use cast boolits in their hunting guns."

That old saw has been circulating for too long. The Cast Bullet Association publishes more information for hunters, plinkers and casual shooters than they do benchrest articles. Yes, every issue has results of benchrest matches, but so what? If you'll look closely, those matches contain military rifle matches, off-hand "deer hunter" matches, mid-bore & large-bore matches, etc. If you don't want to compete in the matches, don't. While I haven't shot in the postal matches for a while, the information those shooters willingly pass on is valuable to me. Maybe they don't have the best web forum, I don't know because I don't use it. They do have the best organization and publication geared solely for cast bullets.

I think Gimpy is refering to the forum run by herr colonel and you're referring to the publication. The publication is very good, the comments about herr colonels list is right on the mark.

I think Gimpy was referring to the Cast Boolits forum, on the sex, religion, and politics subjects. We'd had an incident in the past that caused hard feeling among members, so it is easier to ask the people to leave them out, as much as possible. Heck, this Accurate Loading forum here has a great free for all area, that I have participated in. And there are lots of others on the web.

Yeah, I meant the post by George in refering to the CBA forum, not Gimpy's post - sorry 'bout that. The Cast Boolits forum is excellent.

The Cast Bullet Assoc. publication would publish whatever the members would contribute. It was subjuct to the whims of whoever happened to be in charge at that time. Basicly whoever was willing and had the time to put the thing together. I belonged to the CBA for 18 years and had articles pubished in it, and saw it change into a magazine that took ideas and responces off of forums just like this because of lack of good member submited material. They were about 50/50 benchies and hunters.

The Yahoo on line CBA forum is all together different and run by completely different people. As Waksupi(Ric) said "herr colonel" as he is known by most everyone has earned that name, and in doing so he's kept that forum from growing to what should be the biggest and best of the lot. He would delete anyones comments and ban them from the site. An open forum it was not!! That's probably why the CBA's own forum get's a bad reputation. There are too many good places out there to express your views, like this one and Cast Boolits.There were some because of lack of monetary support that have gone to the forum graveyard.

Most of us older posters know how ideas get rehashed over and over by newbies wanting answers to simple questions. People like Deputy Al, Beagle, Waksupi, and especialy the patient Felix, had for years posted answers to those new kids on the block on our favorite easy to post site. The group of extremely knowlegable guys split up in several directions looking for a new favotite forum. Some post here, and some cover several places, and some no longer post at all because time takes it's toll. ...Geo

I was on the CBA board for 5 years so I'll say it one more time " The CBA never had any control over how Chas. Hamilton acted or acts". The forum he runs is his own property and the CBA had nothing to do with setting it up or deciding on the conduct of the moderator. I should add that now the CBA has a forum run by Joe Brennan who I see posting on a bunch of cast bullet sights and has published a cast bullet book and has another one in the works if I heard right. Go to the CBA site and hit the forum link to access it.

Another line of BS is that the CBA is nothing but match shooters who won't have anything to do with "regular" guys. Join up and see what's being printed in the magazine before making a statement like that. If you look at the postal matches which encompass just about every form of shooting you'll see a lot of the same guys shooting military, lever action, and a bunch of other disciplines shooting in the registered bench matches. I've never looked down my nose at any shooter or know of another match shooter who has. It's just another shooting game and makes no one better or worse that another. How many people who piss and moan about the match shooters do all their testing standing up on their hind feet? Shootng a $2500 bench gun or a $100 military gun off the bench is still bench shooting.

I look at a lot of CB forums and as far as I'm concerned they're all good but one thing about reading the match data that some people complain about is that you know it's on the up and up as far as loads and results. There's actually witnesses to it instead of some of the baloney I've read on the web about 8 inch 1000 yard groups with break open Toppers or Mausers whose barrels look like they were bent around a tree some time in the Great War shooting 1/2 inch 100 yard groups in 50 mile an hour winds with the front site missing.

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Only when it suits them. They disavow that site when it suits them, too. I don't want nothing to do with them folks.

I have a pretty fair indication that I might be at the receiving end of this statement and I don't think either one of us will be too hurt if we don't have anything to do with each other.

Pat

I see nothing but good, on how the CBA publication is done. Yes, there are BR results. But how else can you test a load? Come on, guys! Geez, I've got CB matches runing on Cast boolits at the time. Is this why I don't see more entrees come in? You don't want to see what your combination can really do? I must say, I've seen some damn fine shooting, done with a keyboard and computer, but don't get that many targets from people who actually go out and squeeze the trigger.
I picked up a lot of good info from the publication. I couldn't afford the subscription for a year or two, and have just been procrastinating, on joining again.
Don't pee on your brother's leg. Herr colonel, ain't my brother, so I will continue to pee on his. A real man isn't afraid of questions, or opposing viewpoints. He doesn't qualify.

And what the sheep said, too!

The internet is such a wonderful source for information, I recall when I started casting and the only unpublished interchange of info was the few old casters I met face to face. Over the years I learned that much of the published info was inaccurate or flat out untrue. The beginners now have all the information from seasoned shooters/casters available free via their computers. The only problem is that many of them don't know how to do a data base search.

There's no doubt that the internet can be a great source of information but unfortunately it can also be a great place for misinformation and a place for people to scratch their ego without fear of having to actually back up their claims with proof. I like the cast bullet forums as much as the next guy but don't think they're the final word and won't turn my back on published works because it's the popular internet thing to do.

Don't know how sheep act but I've seen some pretty outlandish claims made in some of these forums that either went unchallenged or were treated as gospel without the claimer having to show one bit of evidence that he was telling the truth or knew what he was talking about and not just repeating what he'd plagiarized from someone else.

Pat

You're right Pat, but the same is true when you are talking to someone at the gun range, at a bar, or a barbeque. We all have to be healthy sceptics with free information as well.

My point was that if I want a recipe for homemade boolit lube, or opinions on a certain brand of mould, it's as close as a Google search. It's then my job to filter out all the B.S.

I agree with you there. Beleive half what you hear and all what you see is my motto. Boon

PB, I have to agree with you that there's plenty of good solid information to be gleaned off the web. I'm kind of new around here and sure don't want to step on any toes but what bothers me is some of the claims I've seen made, and certainly not just on this forum. If I'm ever crowned King Of The Cast Bullet Forums every picture of a group is going to have to include pictures of the groups fired before and after the one posted as an example of how the gun shoots and every group said to contain 4 in a cluster and one 2 inches away is going to be called a "2 and a cluster inch group" and not a "cluster with a flyer" unless the groups before and after (see above) prove it to be a fact.

I think an obvious way on how to NOT attract new shooters is to make up a bunch of BS so that they feel they'll never get the hang of it and be able to have the chance of shooting cast bullets as well as the "Pros".

I shoot an 03-A3 with the 311284 that I feel confident saying is a 2 inch and above rifle in my hands. I'm sure that out of the I don't know how many groups I've shot with it at least one might have been around 3/4 of an inch or less but that lone group sure doesn't make it a less than MOA rifle.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it and thanks for letting me vent.

Pat