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I will warn you in advance that the photo of an Accubond exit shown below is rather graphic, so if you are a bit queasy, don’t scroll down.

The size of the exit is not all that large, perhaps the size of a nickel. But other factors certainly grab one’s attention. In addition to tissue and blood, there are bone fragments present as well. The impact velocity was only in the neighborhood of 2135 fps, but, as you can see, the bullet is still quite effective at this speed. I have taken a number of animals with the ABs at similar speeds, and in every instance, tissue destruction was massive and the penetration superb.

Granted, the BTs and BSTs do quite well at these pedestrian speeds, too, but it’s hard to pick anything else to shoot when the ABs are establishing such a proven track record. (And since I got the current lot for 16.95 a box, that is even more incentive Smiler )

I am currently shooting the 150 grain AB in a 26” 30-30 AI at 2592 fps using 38 grains of Varget and Fed 210s.



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That certainly is impressive. I really like to hunt with a cartridge that gives about the velocity ranges you mention. Part of the reason is because I've seen the damage produced with the magnum velocities and it's really ugly and excessive. There is something satisfying about using a moderated cartridge to me. After all, there aint much to argue about the shots you are taking at respectable ranges of 244 yds. Big Grin

IMO, it's a very good demonstration of the merits of the 150gr 30 cal Accubond. Let those who shoot the 300 Blackout take note, that the velocity of your shot at 244 yds is greater than the 300 BO produces at the muzzel. I'm not impressed with the Blackout, is a plesant way to put it.

Part of the reason I'm impressed with your post is because I've been using the 165gr Accubond in the 308, and there is no question about its effectivness, way out there. I actually consider it overkill for deer and hogs, simply because a lesser cartridge is enough, but I still like the 308.

Perhaps of interest, I recently bought a R-15 in 30 AR, which about duplicates the velocity you are getting, with 150gr bullets, and very close to the same powder charge. So, all is well as a hunting combo. tu2 I'm really looking forward to whacking some Texass hogs with it next winter.

Keep posting these good ones. I enjoy them.

KB


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Bloody mess.
Those DRT pigs have a nasty habit of bleeding all over themselves.
I shot a boar in the head w/.243 that pumped it up in the air about 8" and fell back on it's face and ear in the sand. Sure a good thing they had a water hose handy.
Bobby I notice you seldom make any close shots. Is there something special about where your pigs come out, or do some come closer? As I recall, seldom seeing you've shot one less than 180yds and most over 200.
Good shooting all the time though. Do you ever miss?
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George-The ranges are longer because I am disabled and have very little mobility. I have a couple shooting platforms: one basically in the front yard and the other a bit farther out for days when I can either walk a bit (rare) or have one of the boys give me a ride there. And, to be honest, since losing my mobility, quite a few hogs have bitten the dust from the kitchen window... Smiler

As to missing, it most certainly does happen, though I have been quite fortunate in that it hasn't been for a good while now. I am a stickler for details, and that's why I shoot the guns I do. They are exceptionally accurate, and if a shot does goes astray, I ahve no one but myself to blame. Big Grin


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Very impressive!

I shot this hog at 8 feet with a 570g TSX at 2300 fps from my 500 Jeffery. It knocked him back a bit. When we went to gut him, just liquid gushed out. His guts had been liquified. The bullet went between his eyes (a little more towards his right eye as he was facing me and exited out his left rear leg. I wish I had taken more photos. The blood just poured out of his mouth.





My youngest son got a bigger one with his 270(my 40 year old BDL that I gave him 3 years ago), it took one shot to put him down and two more to quiet him. One shot was all mine needed.



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I will warn you in advance that the photo of an Accubond exit shown below is rather graphic, so if you are a bit queasy, don’t scroll down.


Na, man, that's beautiful!

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How much did he weigh! WOW



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Very impressive!

I shot this hog at 8 feet with a 570g TSX at 2300 fps from my 500 Jeffery. It knocked him back a bit. When we went to gut him, just liquid gushed out. His guts had been liquified. The bullet went between his eyes (a little more towards his right eye as he was facing me and exited out his left rear leg. I wish I had taken more photos. The blood just poured out of his mouth.





My youngest son got a bigger one with his 270(my 40 year old BDL that I gave him 3 years ago), it took one shot to put him down and two more to quiet him. One shot was all mine needed.



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My son's hog weighed 550 lbs dressed, mine was 450 lbs .


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Chuck



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Chuck,

Where were these taken?


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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It was a high fenced ranch of about 1000 acres, but the feral hogs were all in a 300 acre thicket. We hunted with dogs, the owner said we could walk that thicket all day and never see one. It was so thick that the furthest one we shot (my son's) we first saw at 12 feet. The ranch is called Little Creek, Alan Bair's place. I've never hunted high fence before, but my youngest really wanted to hunt something a bit dangerous before he went to college, and he knew I was going on a brown bear hunt that fall. It was a lot of fun actually and a bit exciting.


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Chuck



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It was a high fenced ranch south of Rifle, Colorado of about 1000 acres, but the feral hogs were all in a 300 acre thicket. We hunted with dogs, the owner said we could walk that thicket all day and never see one. It was so thick that the furthest one we shot (my son's) we first saw at 12 feet. The ranch is called Little Creek, Alan Bair's place. I've never hunted high fence before, but my youngest really wanted to hunt something a bit dangerous before he went to college, and he knew I was going on a brown bear hunt that fall. It was a lot of fun actually and a bit exciting.


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Chuck



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