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anyone shot a hog with this round yet?or is it a deer round.I am going hunting for wild boar in the central valley Kalifornia mothers day weekend and the guide service said leave the 30/30 at home and bring your 270 win.I know thats what I pay him for is his advice but I love that Marlin of mine and I will bring it also. but what is your expirence with the Leverevolution round? or any other round.got three weeks to zero my gun
 
Posts: 5 | Location: Fairfax,California | Registered: 06 April 2006Reply With Quote
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Billy, I too love my marlin 30-30. After a rough start with the cartridge I have come to appreciate it for what it is...a low recoil low blast close range cartidge that flat works. Having said that I also would rely on the guide's info and advise..he knows the area you are hunting. My advise, take them both and if a close shot is available a nice 170 grain roundnose would do the trick. My .02
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Posts: 849 | Location: Between Doan's Crossing and Red River Station | Registered: 22 July 2001Reply With Quote
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My buddy and I went to south Texas hog/javelina hunting, the end of feb. He took a new Marlin XLR, and used the .30-30 leverevolution ammo. He killed 3 hogs, and a javelina. All shots were complete pass throughs, including one that was on the shoulder. His longest shot was about 170 yds as I remember. If the load is accurate in your gun, I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I suspect your guide is thinking long shots, and older 30-30 ammo. Probably has no experience with the leverevolution. That being said, it won't shoot as flat as a .270, sosight it in for 3" high at 100 yds., and practice with it out to 300 yds. You will have to learn the holdover. Hope this helps.

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Billy,

I think your guide probably does know what he's talking about. The terrain in Central CA can be quite varied. The shots required are therefore equally varied. I've watched a good hunting buddy of mine take a boar with a running shot at around 50 yards with his Shiloh Sharps 45-70. That said, he's taken a lot of game and was willing to get shutout on that hunt if a reasonable shot didn't present itself (and it almost didn't, as this took place in the last couple of hours of our hunt).

Another factor is optics. Most pigs are taken at first light and near dusk. A good scope's light-gathering abilities really help in this area.

I've used my BLR in .358, knowing that I might have to pass up the longer shots. I now use a 308 with Federal High Energy loads, so it's the equivalent of a 30-06with standard loads.

My last boar, which went well over 300 lbs., required a 200+ yard shot. Cross-canyon shots could be much longer. I couldn't have done it with an open-sighted 30-30. Would you be willing to pass this up because you were carrying your 30-30 instead of your 270?

 
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I have one made in the 50s that I use all of the time. I have killed close to a hundred pigs in my life with the 30-30 and my Marlin did around 25 of them. It also works great on the black-tail deer growing here, but most people need a WSM these days? Good thing no one told those two bucks I killed this year when I left the 308 Win home and killed them with the 30-30.
 
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Thank you 333 OKH, I miss Nik every day, we worked together for over a year and considered him a friend. His murderer was given the death penalty which is some consolation. But for the next 10-15 years he will go thru the appeals process while Nik's kids grow up without their father kind of rankles.
Nik Green's wife was the driving force behind the law enforcing the regulation of Pseudoephederine in Oklahoma, a major component in methamphetamine. Now Texas has enacted a similar bill but criminals always find a way around legalities.
Once again, thanks for the thoughts.
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Having pig-hunted a few times in central California, I'd take the 270. I too have a 30-30 and love it, but it would be a shame if you missed one at 300 or so yards, in the near dark, just because you had a 30-30.

Let us know what you decide and how it went. Good luck!


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Posts: 952 | Location: Bakersfield, California | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With Quote
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well guys I will be useing the 270 win. but I will also bring the 30/30 incase we are in a situation where it would be close in the brush stuff. Last time we went into barley fields and were up to our knees in tall barley.close quick shots would be the call here. thank you everybody for your feedback and I hope to have pictures in a few weeks
 
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the guide service said leave the 30/30 at home and bring your 270 win.


Hi Bill,

I read your thread and didn't realize you were quoting me until I read your name. Smiler

As most of the other posters mentioned you'll be better served with the .270.

Close shot aren't generally much more difficult with a scoped bolt gun than they are with an open sighted lever (at least in my experience). But pulling off a long range shot with an open sighted 30/30 can be considered nothing short of a stunt (especially in low light).

You're doing the right thing. Bring both and see what comes together. They'll be room for both, just bring a soft case for the one you're not using.

Great hunting with great hunters,

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I wish I was going with you, Mr Kyler is always fun to hunt with.


-eric

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thanks for the info Kyler .The Leverevolution round from Hornady is so new that I have not seen alot of cmments about it .The company touts it as a 300 yard round for a lever gun.That I thought was amazing.Even with my Leupold 4X scope I dont think I could see well enough for a 300 yard shot.So after all we'll see what comes up with Dwaynne that week end.
 
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If you're shooting 300+lb hogs at 300+ yds with a .270 you'd better be able to hit them in the head or you're going to be doing some tracking.


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While attending the SHOT show in vegas this year I spoke with staff from Hornaday & Marlin who had been out using the new leverevolution ammo killing deer and elk,one Marlin rep told me he was target shooting at 175 yds and could cover his shots with a silver dollar FYI they were using scoped rifles.
 
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Hey Bill,

Did you try them out? Just curious . . .


-eric

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Iwould take the 270 ,i used a marlin 3030 of a friend in Choele Choel ,but on lever actions i prefer my guide gun 4570 .Juan


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