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back forty shoot out
01 March 2013, 07:08
Larry Matherneback forty shoot out
Son-in-law has been having a hog problem. He ran into a small herd a couple of days ago, he dropped one and rolled another, but lost it as it got dark.
With the above in mind, I intended to take a stand not far from where he had his last little hog run in. Never made it to the stand. When I got to the pasture, about a hundred yards out was a herd of hogs. I had the wind in my favor so I took my time and went to prone. The closes hog to me was head on so I picked one broadside and shot. The hog went down at the shot. The closes one to me headed for the woods, I jumped up and got off two shots and it looked like I had connected, but it made the woods. The rest of the herd broke across the pasture for the woods on the far side. I picked out the biggest and cranked out two more shots. Acturally I cranked out three, but the last only went click. No more bullets. The hog though went down to my suprise.
Well I started off to check out the first one when I observed the second in the woods, it hadn't gone far. It was a sow, which had taken one in the guts and another through the boiler room. The first had a broken back but was still alive, no bullets for a coup d' grace, so I cut its throat with my pocket knife. The third had one round go through its boiler room. It was a large boar, about 250 lbs or so.
Called a friend who wanted some hogs for a get-together and loaded him up.
01 March 2013, 08:23
swifter 220quote:
Acturally I cranked out three, but the last only went click
I hate that sound!
Way to go, it is fun getting into the herds cause after the first shot, it is like shooting quail...
"We Don't Rent Pigs !"
01 March 2013, 17:29
Bob in TXGood work Larry!
02 March 2013, 04:22
GeedubyaTo this ol' fart, shootin' pigs on the run is almost as much fun as can be had with your clothes on.
Good on ya'
Best
GWB
02 March 2013, 06:58
Larry MatherneThanks guys, for the kudos. It was fun, and good to have a fast cranking lever to keep me up to speed.
Regards all,
Larry
02 March 2013, 19:48
Larry MatherneI've only used two loads in it so far, 168 gr. winchester target loads and my own 130 gr. handloads using IMR 4198. I've only had the rifle for a month or so. Both loads are suprisingly accurate. I know that my handloads are a bit odd for the caliber, but I have a ton of the 4198 so I'm trying to use it up. It is kind of useful in the carbine length. It seems to kill well, four hogs and no complaints.
03 March 2013, 02:21
swifter 220quote:
It seems to kill well, four hogs and no complaints.
I can't believe that !! The nerve of those stinking ole pigs !!!!
I figured they would complain if they were shot with new bullits.
"We Don't Rent Pigs !"
03 March 2013, 03:28
Larry MatherneWell what would one expect from pigs, really.

03 March 2013, 05:49
Mike_DettorreDamn it Larry...how many times do I have to tell you...always bring extra ammo..
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
04 March 2013, 02:33
Larry MatherneAh, Mike, thanks for bringing wisdom to the conversation. You're assertions even when masked make nothing but sense.
Ah bring enough ammo, I always seem to have enough ammo except when I don't. I mean, how many times do you need more than 5 rounds, I almost always carry 6 rounds. But on this occassion I only had 5, cause I used one round last week and didn't replace it. I mean what were the odds I'd need more than 5, but I did. And yep Mike, you're right, this is not the first time you've admonished me for not having what I needed when I needed it. So I will make an effort to carry at least 7 rounds with me at all times.

04 March 2013, 02:48
Mike_DettorreLarry, Larry, Larry,...please PM me your home addy...I will send you one of those buttstock things so this never happens again.
Tis better t0 have an not need then need and not have...
Bring at least 10 rounds...and my expectation is at least 6 pigs in the outing
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
04 March 2013, 03:09
Larry MatherneI'll pm you the address in case you want to send me a Christmas Card, or you're in the area and want coffee or a pig hunt. As far as the ammo carrier, thanks but I'm sure I have one or two laying around here somewhere. Not sure it would help, cause I'd probably not replace the rounds as I use them. I mean, how many times do you need more than 5 really. But I will carry 7 or so, as a wise man said, better to have and not need than....
Thanks again
04 March 2013, 18:42
WhitworthNice work, Larry! The rule seems to be that when you don't bring lots of extra ammo, you always need it......

"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
04 March 2013, 19:36
GeedubyaJust fer shitz n' giggles,
my $.02
If you shoot three to four with one bullet, you can have all you can skin during the enjoyment of one cheap cigar's worth....
and it sure don't drag yo' britches down like carry'n a mess o' bullets!
Course it helps if you're down low and stretched out (lyin' like a rug) so one don't have to load his bullets for a parabloic trajectory.
Good stuff Larry.

GWB
04 March 2013, 22:55
WhitworthHere's a twofer courtesy of my CZ 550 in .458 Lott.......

Sorry for the thread highjack!
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
04 March 2013, 23:24
Larry MatherneWOW, you guys are good. These hogs were a bit scattered out and obsured by brush, so I really didn't have the opertunity to try for a two or more in a shot, this time. I have been thinking about trying it for some time. I guess there are many factors to consider, such as size of pigs, bullet constrution etc. Having a .458 Lott should over ride most factors.

Marco you have my permission to hijack any and all of my post as I enjoy your input always. I currently have a 15 round belt slide filled with .30/40 cartridges on my side. I may be learning.
04 March 2013, 23:24
Geedubyaquote:
Sorry for the thread highjack!
Hey,
its a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it.

GWB
04 March 2013, 23:30
Larry MatherneThanks Geedubya, I enjoyed the photos and thoughts, and realize I'm in the company of pros when it comes to pigs.
05 March 2013, 00:36
GeedubyaAlmost forgot!
If you trap 'em,
you can always take time to go get more bullets
should you need to reload. LOL
Best
GWB
05 March 2013, 04:32
wistrapperYou guys suck! I just has to be unlawful to have this much fun. I do not envy the damage those pigs do to your crop fields and sech, but I do envy all of those reactive targets. Keep up the good work

**************************The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
05 March 2013, 05:56
Larry MatherneGeedubya sucks more than me, just saying.
05 March 2013, 06:42
GeedubyaYup...........
life sucks,
but every now n' then.........
How sweet it is!
Best
GWB
05 March 2013, 06:47
Geedubyaquote:
Originally posted by Geedubya:
Yup...........
I suck,
but every now n' then.........
How sweet it is!
Best
GWB
05 March 2013, 22:58
Larry Mathernequote:
Originally posted by wistrapper:
You guys suck! I just has to be unlawful to have this much fun. I do not envy the damage those pigs do to your crop fields and sech, but I do envy all of those reactive targets. Keep up the good work
When I'm bush-hogging or passing a box blade trying to repair hog damaged pastures, I curse the hogs.
But, if they were erradicated, I'd be diminshed truely.
06 March 2013, 01:58
Geedubyaquote:
Originally posted by Larry Matherne:
Some nice pigs, really. I have a few too!
Yes you do.
and some done fer "the hard way".
You're a better man than me.
Best
GWB
06 March 2013, 06:36
Larry Mathernequote:
Originally posted by Geedubya:
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Matherne:
Some nice pigs, really. I have a few too!
You're a better man than me.
GWB
Not really, just a pig hunter.
06 March 2013, 09:21
Geedubyaquote:
Originally posted by Larry Matherne:
quote:
Originally posted by Geedubya:
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Matherne:
Some nice pigs, really. I have a few too!
You're a better man than me.
GWB
Not really, just a pig hunter.
10/4
Best
GWB
06 March 2013, 18:37
swifter 220I have taken a few this winter, nothing to brag about and really did not think about pictures. I did stumble across some very large tracks and have determined that that pig has got to go before corn planting, which they are in the process of now.
The big pig has not come to my bait, yet, but has made numerous trips around behind the camera and trap.
I have managed to capture some images of a couple of very nice leopards and a long tail yellow cat.
"We Don't Rent Pigs !"
12 March 2013, 14:31
UltraMagAloha Guys,
Very nice hogs indeed gentlemen love them pics. Wish I had some to share with you guys but cant compare really with all that pork LOL!!! Keep stackin' em!
GDUB- Love those blackbuck those are some very beautiful animals. Would love to have 2 like that to smootch LOL!!! Take care my friend.
Aloha No,
Dom
Hunting its not a Hobby its My Way of Life!!!
12 March 2013, 18:49
Larry MatherneDom I've seen some of your hogs and they more than compare. They are always heavy in the teeth department.
Aloha back at ya!
12 March 2013, 18:55
Geedubyaquote:
Originally posted by Larry Matherne:
Dom I've seen some of your hogs and they more than compare. They are always heavy in the teeth department.
Aloha back at ya!
+1

GWB