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Slipped up on this barrow about 2 am this morning.





 
Posts: 157 | Location: Pearsall, Tex. | Registered: 25 August 2006Reply With Quote
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What's a barrow?

Never mind looked it up...


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10182 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Mike,
he don't got what makes him a boar. He's been castrated. A "barrow" hog.

Those are some cutters.........

Good on ya' there Duckman. tu2

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The front end was awesome
 
Posts: 157 | Location: Pearsall, Tex. | Registered: 25 August 2006Reply With Quote
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Also known as a barr hog. Nice work!



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Posts: 13440 | Location: Virginia | Registered: 10 July 2003Reply With Quote
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So a castrated boar that then went feral?


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10182 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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No,he was a feral pig and was caught castrated abd turned loose.
 
Posts: 157 | Location: Pearsall, Tex. | Registered: 25 August 2006Reply With Quote
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whole lotta lowers for such short uppers.
Makes a good looking mouth though.
One less out there, that's the main thing, right?
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whole lotta lowers for such short uppers.
Makes a good looking mouth though.
One less out there, that's the main thing, right?
george


The whetters (or uppers) are only there to keep the lowers sharp, and they typically don't get very long.



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[/quote] So a castrated boar that then went feral?[/quote]

Mike, it has been a long time since I had the opportunity to hunt S TX but years back I hunted adjacent to a huge ranch. The landowner had plenty of money, and he would trap young pigs, cut the males and turn them loose. We trapped quite a few barrows on the property we hunted.

I believe he did it so the paying customers had a pretty good shot at killing a hog that would go with the venison very well, and not have so much of a chance at what some folks call an inedible boar.

Barrows get big, and they eat wonderfully well; to me, just like a gilt or a sow. And, most importantly, they aren't contributing to the feral hog overrun we have down here.
 
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How old would you say that barrow is?
How old do they get?
 
Posts: 788 | Location: Eastern Cape, South Africa | Registered: 24 December 2006Reply With Quote
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He was about as old as they get

Several indications of age in a hog are;

1) Thickness of the teeth.As a hog ages his teeth will get show more mass.
2) Wear on his front teeth.This can be deceptive depending on the amount of food available. This particular ranch was solid prickly pear with a lot of ripe apples this time of year and the pigs love them.The drought has been severe in this part of the state until recently and the pigs have had to hustle to eat.
3) calcification of the rib attachment. as a hog ages the cartilage attachment of the rib to the backbone begins to calcify( This is not exactily what happens but is close) . That is why you can cut the ribs off with a knife on a young hog and you have to use a saw on an old one. Needles to say I had to use a saw on this one.
 
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The term "barrow" is the correct word for a castrated boar."Barr" is slang for the same animal.
 
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Fellows
We may have a whole new sport here. Sneaking up on a boar and nutting him. It only counts if you get away without a scratch.

Jim


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We may have a whole new sport here. Sneaking up on a boar and nutting him. It only counts if you get away without a scratch.

Jim


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Totally useless information here, but, for castrated animals the colloquial names are, or at least the ones I hear most commonly used;

Equines and Llamas = Gelding

Bovines = Steer

Sheep & Goats = Wether

Chickens = Capon

Pigs = Barrow

I have talked to several folks here in Texas that have from time to time when trapping hogs, would cut some of the males and turn them loose. The act of de-nutting a critter produces physiological changes in the animal among them are such aspects as meat quality and they way the meat is produced while the animal is alive and also changes in temperament and behavior. Supposedly in south and south west Texas the old time cowboys/vaqueros would catch young buck white tails and cut them and turn the back loose. The end result were called cactus bucks because the antlers produced after the castration were oddly shaped with multiple points.

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A question was asked about aging the pigs:

A good way to age them is by tooth eruption.i.e.when the teeth grow through the surface of the gums.

The last teeth to come through the gums are the third molars. They start to come through when the pigs are about 300 days old. So if you get a pig with those back molars well through the gums or even starting to wear down... you're looking at a pretty old pig for living in the wild.


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A question was asked about aging the pigs:

A good way to age them is by tooth eruption.i.e.when the teeth grow through the surface of the gums.

The last teeth to come through the gums are the third molars. They start to come through when the pigs are about 300 days old. So if you get a pig with those back molars well through the gums or even starting to wear down... you're looking at a pretty old pig for living in the wild.


Kyler.
Is it suggested that the hunter check the third molars prior to shooting him?
Could add this to the nutting the boars in the wild as a new sport.

Jim


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my wife has a pet hog that we caught as a 5-7lb baby. we had him castrated when he reached about 15-20 lbs and was dog tame. he now weighs at least 350lbs, is still dog tame and has HUGE tusks(he is now 5 years old). he loves to play with our dogs. they chase him a while, then he stops and chases them. then they all collapse and rest! rotflmo

BTW, this picture is a year old- hhe is bigger now...


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Great pet!



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Awesome tusker!!!

We raised hogs for a while as a teen and we had a boar that lived to be about 15, IIRC. I know he was totally useless in the romance department after about 10, (like alot of older males), but dad didnt have the heart to sell or shoot him. No way we'd have eaten that old tush-hog! He had a place of honor in the pens, and one morning he was laying dead, with a stupid grin on his face; probably from avoiding the butcher block.


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i have no idea what i am going to do when he dies. there is no way to get my tractor into the pen to pick him up with the front-end loader and he weighs at least 300lbs. oh well, that's a problem for another day...


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jdollar, as bad as this is going to sound, it is meant with the utmost respect for your family and you pet, but you may have to consider having some one come in and quarter him up for removal. Wished I had a better way of putting it.


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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no offense taken at all. i had already figured that will be the only way to get him out unless he dies up against the fence and i could get a sling around him and hoist him up with the front end loader on my tractor. as someone else posted earlier, i too grew up on a hog/peanut farming operation and my weight estimate is conservative. it may well be 350lbs or more( the picture is a year old)and he just keeps growing. another bridge to cross down the road....


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