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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
KB, I can not answer for Texas Killartist, but, had God meant for white tails to be pie-bald/pinto or albino, that is the way they would be.

That doe is really neat looking, but those genetics need to be removed from the herd.

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Spoken like a true Texan high fencer.

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While one tribe or village might view them in that manner a neighboring tribe might not/would not/did not. Not ALL Plains Indians treated White Buffalo as a sacred animal many tribes would kill a white buffalo just as quick or even quicker than a normal colored one.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
KB, my response was what was left after 4 edits before I posted it.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

I am not a fan of High Fences, none of the property I guide on is High Fenced, and for your information, the only animals that I believe should be high fenced are exotics, NOT NATIVE NORTH AMERICAN GAME ANIMALS.

I no more believe pie-bald white tails or all white, white tails , REGARDLESS of sex, should be left in the population i.e. Free Range. I( don't care what folks do behind a High Fence, it is their business. In my opinion I think the whole High Fence/Super Racked Freaks have harmed deer hunting more than helping it. Those animals are nothing more than livestock.

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
KB, I can not answer for Texas Killartist, but, had God meant for white tails to be pie-bald/pinto or albino, that is the way they would be.

That doe is really neat looking, but those genetics need to be removed from the herd.

Spoken like a true Texan high fencer.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

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Spoken like a true Texan high fencer.

I am not a fan of High Fences, none of the property I guide on is High Fenced, and for your information, the only animals that I believe should be high fenced are exotics, NOT NATIVE NORTH AMERICAN GAME ANIMALS.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
I merely responded with my honest opinion about the deer in the picture you posted. That opinion had nothing at all to do with High Fences, merely my belief about genetic anomalies

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“Hair loss syndrome”(HLS) of black-tailed deer was first described in western Washington in 1995. The condition is caused by a heavy infestation with a Eurasian louse of poorly defined taxonomic status in the genus Damalinia (Cervicola) sp. The normal hosts of this louse are European and Asian deer and antelope, which are not seriously affected by the lice.

In contrast, when black-tailed deer become infested, they tend to develop a hypersensitivity (severe allergic) reaction to the lice, which causes irritation of the skin and excessive grooming by the deer. Eventually, this excessive grooming leads to loss of the guard hairs, leaving yellow or white patches along the sides (Figures 1 and 2). Infestations are heaviest during late winter and early spring, and many affected deer, especially fawns, die during this time. The geographical distribution of HLS has steadily expanded since its first appearance and now affects black-tailed deer throughout their range in western Washington and western Oregon.

Beginning in 2003, WDFW began to receive reports of deer from the Yakima area of south-central Washington with clinical signs similar to HLS. These reports were of deer occurring in the black-tailed/mule deer intergrade zone in the eastern foothills of Cascade Range, and were the first reports of apparent HLS in eastern Washington. Reports of more severely affected deer were received in 2004. In March 2005, lice were collected from four affected deer and identified as Bovicola tibialis, yet another exotic old world species with fallow deer as the normal host.

During the early spring of 2006, WDFW received numerous reports of dead deer, especially fawns, in the Yakima area with hair loss. The geographical extent of reports received in 2006 had expanded greatly compared to previous years and included occurrences of the condition in mule deer. Aerial surveys and harvest statistics suggest that the deer population in Yakima and Kittitas counties has declined by about 50% since the arrival of the lice. It is unknown if Bovicola tibialis infestations are the sole reason for the drop in deer numbers, but they are suspected to be a factor.

Bovicola tibialis is also associated with hair loss in deer in Klickitat County. In Chelan County, the occurrence of Bovicola tibialis was documented in 2009, and by April 2010, deer affected by hair loss were observed throughout the county's mule deer winter range.

Neither species of the exotic lice described above affect humans or domestic animals.

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There is an increased risk of disease transmission between animals associated with feeding. Feeding sites may harbor and concentrate disease agents deposited by infected animals creating a reservoir of contaminated feed or infectious excreta. Deer cannot avoid fecal consumption at feed sites. Some diseases and parasites spread through ingestion of contaminated excreta material include bovine tuberculosis, CWD, salmonellosis, toxoplasmosis, large lungworm, and larval tapeworms.

While contagious and infectious diseases are a major concern, lactic acidosis or grain overload is associated with feeding as well. Lactic acidosis is the fatal disruption of the body’s acid-base balance in the rumen and has been documented in the Pennsylvania.

Another issue of concern regarding deer health and feeding is emerging new syndromes being documented. Mild to marked hair loss syndrome and soft tissue inflammation of the muzzle are two newly recognized conditions associated with feeding.

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
I've never had any luck with seeing hogs at a feeder in the morning. If anyone disagrees, let me know so I can reconsider.

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Source it.

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I believe you likewise owe me an apology.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
somehow i don't think HLS has made it from blacktails in WA to whitetails in GA and skipped the states in between in the last 8-10 years

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A Demodex sp. was first detected in a white-tailed deer from Georgia in the 1960s [7]. This infested deer exhibited hair loss and thickening of the skin on the head, neck, and shoulders. A second incidence of demodicosis was reported in Oklahoma in 1971 from a white-tailed deer with alopecia [8]. Demodex odocoilei, currently the only known Demodex sp. from white-tailed deer in the United States, was described using material from skin scrapings of deer in Georgia, Virginia, and Oklahoma [4]. These mites were obtained via deep skin scrapings of formalin-fixed tissue. Histology of the skin samples did indicate hair loss and distention of the hair follicle and sebaceous glands, but the presence of mites was not associated with inflammation [4]. Mites morphologically consistent with D. odocoilei were reported from Columbian black-tailed deer (Odocoileus hemionus columbianus) and mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus hemionus) from the western United States and Canada [9, 10]. Recently, Demodex kutzeri, a species of European cervids, was reported from three species of cervids (one mule deer and one Rocky Mountain elk (Cervus elaphus nelsoni) from Colorado and a white-tailed deer from South Dakota) as well as a white-tailed deer from South Carolina (since 1971) [5]. Throughout the southeastern United States, numerous other cases of demodicosis have been diagnosed in white-tailed deers (SCWDS, unpublished data); however, the causative species of Demodex was not determined.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Save yourself time and effort and put me on your ignore list. If you don't like the way a person responds when you go to making baseless assumptions/accusations about them, you might want to rethink about making such assumptions/accusations.

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Originally posted by Grenadier:
I don't think that's a piebald deer. It looks like Hair Loss Syndrome (HLS) is spreading your way. You might want to let your Game Department know about your picture

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Originally posted by jdollar:
so Demodex started in the SE and spread north and west to WA?

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Isn't baiting hogs a double edged sword?

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Originally posted by Grenadier:
Isn't baiting hogs a double edged sword? I don't have wild or feral hogs where I live but I have to wonder. I would think that baiting is a good way to draw hogs out to be shot but doesn't the extra food source also help increase the hog population?

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Originally posted by larrys:
KB, I would personally not shoot that deer in my herd.

This deer will have enough issues because of it's color and the lack of camoflage color to predators.

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Source it

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

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Source it

Gato, you called me out and I gave my source material. After which you have chosen not to say anything.

Now, I did as you asked, what is your response?