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My son is stationed at 29 Palms. We are going to spend Christmas with him. Is there any hog hunting in that area or does someone know a good outfitter for that region. | ||
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Big Mo, The closest would be Tejon Ranch. http://www.HuntTejon.com or you would need to travel to the central coast and try someone like Ed Roth http://www.edrothhunting.com/ or http://www.boaring.com/ with Kyler Hamann. However you may be a little late trying to book as they are usually pre booked. Fort Hunter Ligget is one for Self Guided hunts and also located in the Central Coast and quite far from where you are going to be.......Most of the prime Hog Hunting in Central and Southern CA is all on private property so bring your check book. I hope you find something..... Merry Christmas! ScopeBite I would rather Boar Hunt for my Bacon! | |||
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Yeah, you will have to travel to the Central Coast. I recall a number of years back that there was a hog hunt available in Riverside, but I will have to dig up the particulars.....which would be considerably closer to The Stumps than the Central Coast. Big Mo, if you are interested, I can try and dig up the info......... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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the closest to 29 palms is going to be ft tejon. its about 200 miles an 3 1/2 hours with no traffic. you should plan on at least 5 hours the central cost area is about 325 miles and 6 plus hours without traffic....you shpuld plan on 7 to 7 1/2 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Thanks for the info guys. We didn't have time he had to work some so we just hung out and skied some, and rode dirt bikes. He deploys in Feb. so it was great to spend time with him. Could have shot coyotes but did not have a rifle with me. | |||
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I just saw your request today Big Horn Canyon Ranch outside of Redlands,CA http://www.ladyhunter.com/bighorn/bighornhome.htm I live near Redlands & know about this hunting ranch.I also know a lot about 29 palms since it was my le duty assignment for 12 years.There are quail & rabbits in and around 29 palms & there used to be pheasants.You weren't that far away from the million plus acre Mojave National Preserve where we hunt for Mule Deer(oct/nov),Chukar,Quail,Cottontails and California Jackrabbits plus predators.There are other areas in San Bernardino County with a few wild boar. | |||
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You were right on it's the Big Horn Canyon Ranch in the badlands between Redlands & Moreno Valley. | |||
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Not much on the website about how they got there? Are they trying to remove these animalsand make a profit or are they game ranching? | |||
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You're right about it being the Big Horn Canyon Ranch. Don't know much about the operation, but if anyone would like to know, I can make some inquiries as a friend of mine knows the folks who run that operation. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Would love to hear more. It would make a nice retreat when at the In-laws in Socal. | |||
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I live pretty close to that Big Horn place. First Ive heard of it. Ill have to look into that place. Looks like a money making operation game ranch. I went to that Four Winds pheasant club, advertized on there directions page, to try it out, to train pups. What a joke that was. | |||
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OK -- I'll dig up what I can about the place. Stand bye! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Now my typing is horrible cause I just don't bother proof read and correct my posts... I found it interesting that they have "Russian Boar and Farrell Pig" but no feral pig. Is a Farrell pig one that ate to much ice cream at a Farrell's ice cream parlor? Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Farrel pigs maybe abandon pet potbelly pigs  | |||
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So they can't spell!  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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My brother saw some hogs of hwy 173 on the desert side past the gun club (Pretty rough mountaines country), and I also heard there were alot of pigs near silverwood lake | |||
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Must be a game ranch if they are selling Dall Sheep hunts for $350 | |||
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But that doesn't mean that the hogs aren't indigenous to the region. I will find out what I can about the operation........ "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Chris Kenny, I see your in Temec. Been to the Shootist? , the only gun shop left around here All the hogs and different goats have been brought in. | |||
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After hunting the central coast I called the folks at Big Horn Canyon. Talked to them a couple of times and even passed their name on to an aquaintance who booked a hunt. I moved before hunting with them or hearing his hunt report. One thing I liked about them was that it wasn't nearly so canned as the central coast hunts can be. They set you out and YOU find the game (they will guide if needed). I also liked that they had several species available so depending on the quality of the animal you happened accross you had some choices. I'd love to hear if anyone uses them. They were pretty reasonable too.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I fired off an e-mail to someone I know who I believe has hunted there. Just waiting for a reply. I will keep you all posted. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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The Shootist is the largest, but not the only. Accurate Arms folded but Cal Custom in Fallbrook is still around. Ron Murrieta CA | |||
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Dave at Cal Customs used to do all my gun transfers. Accurate Arms was a joke but I did get some killer deals on 2 pre 64 m70s and a few FN mausers when they were reselling " inherited" guns that people brought in, when they were still in business Im in Wildomar | |||
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It's a game hunting ranch that a lot of my friends have hunted.There have been hogs in the area for approx 40 years.When a friend lived in Loma Linda he saw pig tracks at the dump. | |||
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Got an e-mail back from my friend who has hunted there and he says the game is brought in (obviously in the case of Dall Sheep), and that it is an easy hunt if you set up by the water holes. Or you can go into the thick stuff after game. So, it is what you make of it, I guess. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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That's kinda the way it is in CA. Better yet is to be able to hunt the only crop field surrounded by uncultivated land. They come in for food and then head back out for water or to nap. | |||
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He did say that you can make a rougher go at it if you are so inclined. The prices aren't terrible for California, I might just have to give it a try at some point...... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Big Horn Canyon Ranch is a put and take ranch, even for the hogs. If you go to this site: Jesse's Hunting and Outdoors and do a search on it you will get a large number of reports from folks who have been there to decide if it is for you. I'd hesitate to call it hunting myself, but to each his own. You will get a much better hunt if you go with one of the guides suggested earlier in the thread. I have personally hunted with Kyler Hamann and highly recommend him. In addition to having access to some great ranches to hunt, you will learn a lot from him, as well as have some entertaining conversations in the truck as you drive from area to area. I believe Kyler posts on this site if you want to PM him. Soli Deo Gloria | |||
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I used to go to the Shootist all the time. However, now I work in Corona and I have found a great little shop up there. It's called Annie's Get Your Gun. It used to be called Dave's Gun Shop. It's a small mom and pop place but you get better personal attention than anywhere else I have been in the area. | |||
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Just to clarify something from my first post....I did not want to intend that the ranches/guides services I suggested are canned. They are all offered on Private properties however there are no high fences and the action is spot and stalk. The game is free to come and go and so on. I have had sucess on two of the three and will get on tejon this spring on a self guided hunt. All three ranches have a high sucess rate and are true hunting grounds. Fort hunter ligget is a military base but far from canned. ScopeBite I would rather Boar Hunt for my Bacon! | |||
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Yes, Big Horn Canyon is a game farm operation. The hogs will often look like they just came out of the barnyard. Ed Roth, Camp Five, Bryson Resort ( cabins to rent and you arrange to hunt the private land near Fort Hunter Liggett for free range wild hogs) and others are great. Camp Five and Bryson are nice as you get to hunt varmints when you are done. Sometimes other guides do not provide lodging, food or varmint hunting and the hunt is over by 10 AM on the first day... Private land hog hunting can be very productive quickly if the food and water are there. Tejon Ranch can be great - you can sometimes go unguided or you can use their guides. | |||
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I live in SoCal and hunted Bighorn once with my buddy. The ranch is not huge, but the terrain is quite rugged. Some of the animals look like they were hand fed prior to being dropped of at this place. I would have felt bad shooting some of the sheep and domestic pigs that let me walk right up to them. I climbed up into brush however and fopund a different experience. Some of the pigs were bedded down in thick brush and were really tough to get to. I ended up shooting a small meat pig that was running around with a group of small hogs. By the way I was using an iron sighted .357 mag for the hunt. If you do hunt Bighorn bring a bow or a handgun. Don't do it with a rifle. Get up into some of the thick stuff and you will be surprised how challenging it can be. | |||
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