Rest in Peace, Fred!

I just saw that story as well.

Hand fed and raised from 6 weeks of age. Sold to the "outfitter" 4 days before it was shot.

So timid the former owners even let their grandchildren play with it.

So they stick a pet into a 150 acre fenced enclosure, a pet that has probably never been further than a couple hundred yards from its pen its entire life, and shout to the world about their ranch's record "wild" hog hunt.

Wonder how the hunting guide will handle the press now?

Knew it, had to been "well" fed, like the one I've adopted it would be hard to call it a feral hog after living in my back yard for better than 8 months and being fed twice a day. By the way I haven't named this one and only call it "pig". R.

Aw, you unbelievers, it's easy to overlook a 1000 pound 9 foot long hog in a 150 acre trap where they have to be fed everyday. Sure it is.

I hate to knock the kid but if he shot 16 times and only hit him 6, he needs to go back to the practice range.

Ah Fred, I hardly knew you.

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Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Aw, you unbelievers, it's easy to overlook a 1000 pound 9 foot long hog in a 150 acre trap where they have to be fed everyday. Sure it is.

I hate to knock the kid but if he shot 16 times and only hit him 6, he needs to go back to the practice range.

Ah Fred, I hardly knew you.

. You think they baited him up with his favorite canned sweet potatoes, just so the obese kid didn't have to walk so far...? I'm sure all the kid's fans are turning on him now.
I think Ole Fred could have been a movie star, if things had gone a litle different in his life. Too bad he didn't get dealt a better hand.. He deserved one.
Adios Fred. We'll be thinking of you, up there in the big hog wallow in the sky .

Reminds me of the song about Judd in "Oklahoma" ! 'Poor Fred is dead , Oh Fred is dead ...'

I have hunted preserves and will again. But I draw the line at shooting anything with a name. This will make all of us hunters look real good. But hey some rich not so little kid got all kinds of attention. Great lessons his dad is teaching him. As far as the preserve owner goes well whos up for turning him loose in 150 acres and chase him with pistols that we cannot shot for shit.

Dollars to doughnuts, this idea was the obese dad's thing all the way. This is speculation, of course, but I bet it was brought on by Fern's bear hunt a while back. I forget her last name but, the girl actually wanted to learn to shoot a big gun and earned her right to hunt the bear.

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Originally posted by brayhaven:

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Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Aw, you unbelievers, it's easy to overlook a 1000 pound 9 foot long hog in a 150 acre trap where they have to be fed everyday. Sure it is.

I hate to knock the kid but if he shot 16 times and only hit him 6, he needs to go back to the practice range.

Ah Fred, I hardly knew you.

. You think they baited him up with his favorite canned sweet potatoes, just so the obese kid didn't have to walk so far...? .

I knew it was balony!

I had to bust out laughing about the obese kid and all the stories of him chasing it for miles and shooting it so many times. WhataFack!

And the President of S&W sent a letter congradulating this Fat Kid. I bet the Ruger Guys are happy.
Hank Hill would never have let Bobby make a life time fool of himself. Or is the Fat Kid's dad the lifetime fool?

Unless poor ole Fred was fed out on Hog finisher in his last 30 days or so instead of the standard "medicated" hog pellets the pork is not fit for human consumption. I'm sure the sweet potatoes were just treats to the true feeding of the beast. True feral hogs have the best pork because what they feed on is typically natural. R.

...including week-old carrion.

Bobby:

You forgot to mention "treated" (poisoned) corn which is supposed to be bird resistant. A few kernels of it will kill a horse dead, hogs eat it by the acres. Looks like a small turning plow going down the row, exactly one snout wide.

I trapped some wild pigs several years ago and the group had 4 little piglets in it,, maybe 3-4 weeks old. I put them in a dog kennel with free choice food and water and after a year,, and a bunch of feed,, they never looked anything like a domestic pig. They were big in the front shoulders and small in the back just like a wild free roaming pig. They never tamed up and would eat you alive if you went into the pen. I did butcher them eventually and nothing special or different about the meat that I could tell. All i know is I tried to take the wild out of them and it did not work. You can't get a wild ferral pig to 1000 lbs as far as I am concerned.

Enclosures are not inherently bad, if they are big enough that the animal doesn't know it is in one. Fred thought he had a little more room to raom, but it looks as though he never roamed to far from the chow.

Poor Fred. By the way, the neighbor's dog is pretty big, I figure i will turn him loose in the back yard and "hunt" him.

here is a previous post of mine...
see the date?
Posted 27 May 2007 16:25
The Pig has been on the 2500 acre property at Lost river for a while. The boys father is friends with one of the owner/ operators of the place. the guy called saying they were ready to kill the pig because he was becoming a problem "tearing up fences" and the like. the kid was brought down specificaly for the kill to enhance the story.
Was it 1000 pounds? yeah or close to it.
was it an 11 year old that killed it? yep he's 11.
was it bred and fattened up and placed for the kill?
yeah, the whole thing was staged as a publicity stunt to increase buisness at lost river.
what do you want to bet they are booked solid on pig hunts till deer season?


the facts surrounding the kill were not being hidden.
it was the media who jumped on and pumped up the story.

KS,

No one is debating what you are stating. The fact remains that the only people that knew the hog was tame were the father, son and owner of "Fred".

It was not until they started posting photos and bragging about hunting and killing this hog, that the media and most ethical hunters started jumping their $hit about it. It was not a hunt, but a slaughter.

You don't see slaughter house worker posing in photos with their daily kills. And that's all this was. The father started the bragging and now regrets it.

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Originally posted by HL:
KS,

The fact remains that the only people that knew the hog was tame were the father, son and owner of "Fred".

not true.
anyone who has spent anytime around boars knows that they ONLY way your gonna get one this big is in an enclosure. No pig roaming to forage is gonna be able to pack on the mass. its a simple equation of caloric intake vs. calories burned.

This sort of behaviour brings our sport into disrepute. Those guys will end up as the poster guys for PETA and other like minded organisations! Talk about handing a PR coup to the antis! What was the father thinking of? Or more accurately did he actually stop and think at all? I doubt it very much. What an idiot!

What I don't understand is, why anyone would have thought the hog was a wild/feral hog, in the first place! Anyone who has ever seen a wild hog would know that this thing was right out of a hog pen on a farm......Jeeze, even the 11 yr old should have known after one look!

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