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Re: pure boars and feral hogs
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I disagree, I think the pure Russian is the meanest by far, the feral hog blood infuses domestic qualities..Just my personal opinnion...The Russians seem totally agressive to me...
 
Posts: 42213 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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It's been my experience that the feral hogs are by a margin more dangerous to dogs. I guess I felt that since they had less chance of out running them they had to stand and fight. Wild hogs are much like people though and not all people fight equal either.

I think the true wild hogs would likley evade or at least have the chance to evade dogs much better then a feral or domestic cross bred wild boar. In the USA and Canada for that matter I hear the talk quite often of "Russian" boar. Well I rather doubt that the "Russian" strain is a very high content in any hogs in North America. Sure they can be farmed and released into areas to improve the gene pool but the reality is that two to three generations down the line they are all feral. In a state like Texas where they estimate 1.5 million wild hogs how many introduced Russian hogs would it take to make a visible impact in the over all genitics of the populaiton? Way too many to even consider it possible.

Certainly there are traits the reflect the European strain visually but that does not make them "Russian" boar. they are nearly all feral hogs after one or two breeding periods. The other thing I find amusing is that in the SCI record book Russia does not have the biggest wild hogs. Not even close actually. I've always wondered where the common thoughts on the Biggest baddest boars coming from Russia started?

Iran and Turkey have higher scoring boar then anything Russia has ever produced. Actually many countries have much bigger hogs then Russia. How is it that Russia gets this reputation? Here are some example entries right from SCI's record book:
Iran 28-2/8
Iran 27-5/8
India 25-4/8
Yugoslavia 25-1/8
Argentina 24-7/8
Turkey 24-4/8
Poland 24-3/8
Australia 24-5/8
Austria 24-1/8
Spain, Sweden, Germany, Belgum, New Zealand, all have bigger entries then Russia has.

This is just an Example but to put this in perspective the biggest boar from Russia scores 20-6/8
Russian Boars are not even in the game here!

In North America the biggest wild hog is listed at 27" exactly. It's from California. There are only 13 listed over 20" in the book from North America. 8 are from CA, 3 from Texas, There are two different listings for wild boar in North America. One is for feral wild boar and the other is for Purebred. Safari Club will only recognise the boars from an Island off the coast of Nova Scotia as pure European all others must be listed as feral because of the interbreeding with existing wild populations. The biggest listed from Shangri-la Nova Scotia is 23-3/8"

For my money if somebody is trying to impress me with boar genetics it would have to be from the middle east. There are a whole lot bigger hogs there then in Russia! What is really funny about this is that whn I looked this up some time ago I thought that there must be a seperate book for trophies from the USSR. That was because I could not find an entry from there for wild boar until I looked way WAY down the listing to see the few that make the book.
 
Posts: 1261 | Location: Rural Wa. St. & Ellisras RSA | Registered: 06 March 2001Reply With Quote
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did anyone took a hog of more thant 300kilos here in aregentina was done in several ocassions.juan
 
Posts: 6382 | Location: Cordoba argentina | Registered: 26 July 2004Reply With Quote
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In France only Wild hog is legal. Feral hogs and other hybrids should be killed by every means.
The wild hog has 36 chromosomes. Every wild hog like game presenting 37 or 38 chromosomes is an undesirable hybrid.
We have a name for this hybrid.
Pig = cochon
Wild hog = sanglier Hybrid = cochonglier.
Every people who wants to breed wild hogs should them be tested to check they have only 36 chromosomes. If not, no authorization and the hybrids should be discarded.
Regards Jean Bernard
 
Posts: 1727 | Location: France, Alsace, Saverne | Registered: 24 August 2004Reply With Quote
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I think the cross, mite be a tad smarter,as they have been around men so to speak, but the Russians down here in NC, can be very mean, and don't put up with alot of messing around
 
Posts: 1529 | Location: Tidewater,Virginia | Registered: 12 August 2002Reply With Quote
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jaegers in my farm rigth now is a feral hog enormous 400 kilos at least with big tusks one of my gauchos try to kill it with his small dogs 6 where killed and now im baiting with corn honey and gasoil in the floor to hunt it with a client and my dogos .in this hunt will not be my loved paimun the older dogo he died a week ago of a heart attack in a fith with his son im very sad.perhaps my friend andre from denmark will kill it with his 500 jeffrey.juan pecaries are dangerous for the dogs too
 
Posts: 6382 | Location: Cordoba argentina | Registered: 26 July 2004Reply With Quote
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Dear Juan,

I agree fully with you. In France every mesures are legal to be rid of crosses between wild hog and domestic hog. There is no feral hogs, Corsica apart, it�s against the law. Indisputalbly, everybody who met these chimeras can affirm that they are always far more aggressive than genuine wildboar. The explanation is that these hybrids don�t fear the human being. They refuse to flee when pressed by the hounds and they dramatically wound the dogs. They commit costly depredations. A pure pest, a genuine vermin. They can be recognized by 1) a heavier weight, 2 sometimes )a coat with clear speckles, 3)a hair different from the doormat-like one of the wild boar and most of all 4) a concave snout, not the straight genuine snout 5)in every case ferocity and fearlessness.
Dear Juan, I feel sorry for your dogs. I swear I won�t talk of that with your insurer.
Friendly Jean-Bernard
 
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