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Took another hog this morning and decided to use a load I just developed with the 125 grain BT (mainly for deer and not stoutly-constructed porkers). The angle on the moving sow was tough, and the impact was definitely a hard one. The bullet entered about 3" behind the last rib, drove through a grain-filled stomach, demolished the liver and took out one lung before breaking 2 ribs and lodging under the hide near the opposite shoulder. The recovered bullet only weighed 77 grains, but, all things considered, it did a heck of a job and put the hog on the ground in a hurry. After impact, the hog made less than 30 yards before tipping over.


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Damn Bobby that is impressive, woul never have thought a 125 grain would have made it through the gut filled like that


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Very Impressive indeed.

I have always heard the lighter weight .308 caliber bullets won't work on anything other than varmints. Ofcourse I think if you were pushing them at 3000fps the results might be a little different.
 
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Bobby, you never cease to amaze me how efficiently you harvest game with accurately placed bullets out of non-magnum calibers, and single shot actions at that. Thanks for posting such great pictures and stories.


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Bobby Tomek, the Whackmaster...................

and another one bite's the dust.


Here's to ya' BT

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B. Tomek...aka the Whackeranimus


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike,
I don't think BT bears them porkers any animus(ill will). I think he just likes killin 'em and eatin' em, and target practicin' on em'
and so forth. Much better tastin' and cheaper than ballistic gelatin.
dancing

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I very much admire Bobby's shooting ability.
Proof what it means to: Take special care to make sure your shots hit where they need to for a killing shot.
Keep at it Bobby!
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Well done Bobby. More proof that years ago you didn't lead me astray. On Bobby's advice, the first bullet I tried in my 13" .30-30 AI was the 125 grain BT. I never got any further. I've now shot deer, antelope, and hogs with it and none needed more than one shot. I've only recovered a bullet from one of the hogs. All other shots have resulted in clean pass-throughs, satisfactory internal damage, and good blood trails.


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Thanks for posting, Bobby!

For years I've been telling people who assumed otherwise that the Ballistic Tip, with its solid base of jacket material, penetrates much more deeply than most other quick-opening conventional cup-and-core bullets. Your post is just further evidence. Who cares what the spent bullet weighs or whether it fails to penetrate the offside hide? The Ballistic Tip obliterates the vitals it passes through, and I've yet to see an animial die from what a bullet did to it after it exited Smiler.
 
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Stonecreek-I agree 100 percent. Rarely have I recovered any BTs from game, but when I have, their performance has always impressed me. Launched at modest velocities, they penetrate exceptionally well -- and the 140/7mms and 150/.30s almost always shoot through broadside hogs.








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killed many elk with the 270 and 130 grn
Nosler BT's
They looked just like that.
Devastating wound channel.
Great photo's Bobby
 
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Bobby,

The BIG BOPPER THUMPER.


Great Information Thumper.

I swear, if you don't stop killing those pigs, I'll have to send some down to replenish the herd.


Naw, thats ok, I'll shot what I can and THEN ship the rest.


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