My friend is local outfitter in Tajikistan.
We are thinking about Tagjikistan = Marco Polo.
But he has shot giant wild boars.

Those definitely are some good uns'.

One would be happy to nail anyone of those .......


Best

GWB

Very impressive!

great boars very interesting

FYI, Buyer beware. I booked a hunt through Igor (Profyhunter) and hunted with his contact in Kyrgyzstan for Ibex this past September, 2012. On that hunt we were arrested by the police because the outfitter did not properly fill out all the necessary paperwork or had the proper Governmental Person along on the hunt to make sure the outfitter hunted correctly. With the arrest they also confiscated our trophies, horns and the capes of the Ibex. The outfitter assured us that he would get back the trophies and ship them at his expense in 2 weeks and that we would not have to pay him the balance of the hunt until we received the trophies. On my return I notified Igor of this as he was the booking agent/ part owner of this operation. Igor then changed the date to December. Well guys December is gone and now Igor and his outfitter want us to pay them in full for our hunt before they will ship us the promised trophies. I believe they just wanted to suck us out of our money and not ship us the hunted trophies we took. I believe the skins are bad or damaged at this point and they will be shipping to us either rotten or someone else's animals not our own. First off Kyrgyzstan is a corrupt country and everyone should not be trusted, secondly Igor made all of these promises that he runs this outfitter and he calls the shots with him. Instead of making the situation right , he as added to the shamelessness of asking for our payments before we have in our possessions the skins in hand ( Bribery !!!) Now to add to all of this I was promised and set with our Booking Agent Igor, that we would combine our Ibex hunt with a Roe Deer hunt, well guess what again. The outfitter made every excuse in the book to not take us on the Roe Deer hunt , The Deer hunt that was booked with Igor. Igor uses this web site as free advertising for his bookings and uses the cancellation hunt as a means of attracting clients. We bit on this and got screwed. I can tell you that his pricing he states in the cancellation is exactly the same deal you can get from the outfitter anytime, it is no savings, they are trying to get you to fill an open spot.. If you want more info PM me back here on this forum. There were three of us on this hunt and I will get the other as well to post theirs on here too.
Steve - USA Hunter

Those are some great looking animals



Prezman -- I am sorry to hear your experience with this outfitter, but I am glad that you voiced your experience on this forum. You cannot trust people these days and we as a hunting community need to stick together to weed out the criminals/scams.

Profyhunter
How in the hell do you have the courage to even share photos that i am sure are not from international hunters but locals with a post like the one we read from Prezman ??? I know this is an open forum but beeing true what Prezman wrote , people like this should be banned from having the oportunity to have acess to this kind of foruns.

Prezman
Thank you very much for your information and i regret for your bad experience.

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Originally posted by Indi:
Profyhunter
How in the hell do you have the courage to even share photos that i am sure are not from international hunters but locals with a post like the one we read from Prezman ??? I know this is an open forum but beeing true what Prezman wrote , people like this should be banned from having the oportunity to have acess to this kind of foruns.

@Indi
do you know that Steve have not paid the trophy fees?
do you know, that Steve have not paid full service?
do you know, that we have say to Steve, that we will sen the trophy to USA free charges?
do you know, that we have shot the photos from Steve Trophy





Who are you and what for right you have to accuse me?





Steve, we will not send the trophy without payment!!!!
You have paid only 2000USD for hunitng fees
Please, make the many transfer for throphy fees - 1800USD
Steve with USA hunters in Naryn 2012

So, let me ask a question. prezman, Steve, have you paid the trophy fee for the animal you already shot and owe the fee for, regardless of the rest of the payments? Doesn't one owe trophy fees immediately upon shooting the animal? I have never hunted overseas, but that is the deal on all of my US trips.

Then, and this is just me, could a negotiation take place for shipment of the horns and skin, if it is still available based on shipping confirmation and electronic funds transfer. or are you looking for an all or nothing such as "ship me the trophy and then I will decide whether or not to finish paying you and how much"?

Indi, how in the hell do you have the courage to post such crap without at least having both sides of the story, especially as a newbie.

Not taking sides, just curious.

Gentlemen, keep this civil.

Sorry. Came off stronger than I intended. My first two paragraphs were sincere questions, as I do not know anything about foreign hunting expectations.

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Originally posted by larrys:
Sorry. Came off stronger than I intended. My first two paragraphs were sincere questions, as I do not know anything about foreign hunting expectations.

Larry you're good, that comment was directed at all parties.

Larrys
You are right , i am a newbie and i am proud of it BUT i completed my 42 nd African safari this past october so please allow me to tell you that unfortunatelly i also had some few hunting problems.
I have never hunted this country but i had a few friends that did it .
I presumed before my post , that the American clients were supposed to bring their trophies on the plane with them as my friends did.
Of course , my friends payed the trophy fee just before loading it to the plane .
The problem is that the American clients could not bring their trophies with them ( my assumption by reading other forums here at AR where this subject is also beeing discussed ) just because they were confiscated by the police with no reason presented here and on the other stated forums by profyhunter!
A hunt , wherever it is done , it is supposed to run correctly.
If it does not go " smooth" as it should , it is on the outfitter side to solve it .
Maybe it is not his fault , i can agree , but normally it is not the hunter's fault and in my opinion the outfitter must in most cases sort it out in benefit of the hunter.
I can imagine Prezman to be suspicious and cautious on what is going to happen next after he sends the money !
Risky for Prezman ???? Ya , but Profyhunter should now take the risk also and send the trophies to USA .
Why is always the hunter to take all risks ? The problem was in his country ,he is the agent , he needs to fix it - period.
Did you hear about Usangu in Tz ? I was one of the unfortunate hunters that got screwed with trophies !!

Come on Profyhunter send the trophies to Prezman , even if you do not receive the money you will get well with your conscience.

Indi, I agree, but the issue for me is that it appears that, from the limited information we have, that the hunter neither paid for the entire hunt, NOR the trophy fees, Nor the shipping. So should he get the trophy without the fee, and get the hunt without paying for it? Seems a little too one sided for me. That is why I suggested there might be a negotiation possible so both sides get something. I wish I could get the hunt and trophy for $2000USD. Does that seem reasonable? No.

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Originally posted by Indi:

Come on Profyhunter send the trophies to Prezman .

Hey Indi
you can transfer the money or close your mouth.

Adik has hunted with Rex


Do you want to see the hunting report from Rex?
Rex is big hunter ,
but who are you?

Profyhunter
You did not explain a few things regarding your problem.I really think you do not want to do it otherwise you would have done it before.
Prezman did not come to this forum although he was mentioned a lot of times which for me is also suspicious.
Seems you are good for each other !

Also and to finalise i would like to answer to your question " who are you ".
I am Portuguese , 46 years old , blonde, brown eyes .........but married to a woman....... And i am not a big hunter , i am only 5'75 ft !!! And with your kind of dictatorial speech, a hunter that will never dare to hunt with your company.
Cheers

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Originally posted by Indi:
will never dare to hunt with your company.
Cheers

Very good, i will never hear from you

Regards
Igor

To all here. I agree that money is owed to Profyhunter for the hunt and for the trophy fees. But, I have to agree with Larrys that the outfitter/booking agent is responsible to make sure the hunt goes off without major problems. Unforgettably ours did have major problems with our trophies being confiscated by the police for things the outfitter did not do. IE paperwork. There also at this point is a lack of trust on my end as what was agreed too prior to us departing the hunt as it was not ad-heard to. Originally the outfitter told us we could pay him once the trophies were shipped and that he would ship the trophies in two weeks after our departure. Once I returned home they changed their minds and stated I needed to send the money before they would ship the trophies. How else do you think we were able to leave the country without paying for our hunt in full or for the trophy fee. Do you actually think the outfitter was just letting us leave without paying him if this agreement was not made to pay him after the shipping. Get real guys! I am just worried that the skins were not properly taken care of and that I will have nothing to mount or maybe they will not be sent at all. I have been contacted by a Forum member from another forum, who is a "Super Moderator" on that forum (AH) He has offered to be a non bias moderator between Profyhunter (AKA Ibexhunter)and myself. He sent a PM to the both of us stating he would collect the money from me, hold the money and when the trophies are shipped and received By our group in good shape he the moderator, who lives in Canada, would release the money in full to Profyhunter ( Ibexhunter) for payment. I have agreed to let this happen. To date Profyhunter(Ibexhunter) has yet to reply to this offer to complete this mess. If everything was on the up and up and everyone involved knew that the skulls, horns and skins are in mountable shape, why then would they not agree to this. In the end everyone would have there money or trophies and be satisfied. With this not happening, this brings out the RED Flag as now there is something wrong. Everyone who is following this , please let me know if I am looking at this wrong???? Prezman

Sounds like a reasonable plan to me, and if the hide is not useable, you could still get the horns and skull, although at a reduced price.

Months have gone by, what's happened in this case??

George

Have friends in this country and I can say that the locals are about like the folks across the Rio Grande when it comes to bribery. Caveat emptor!

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Originally posted by georgeld:
Months have gone by, what's happened in this case??

George

WOW I did not realize this website is for settling criminal cases!

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Originally posted by reddy375:

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Originally posted by georgeld:
Months have gone by, what's happened in this case??

George

WOW I did not realize this website is for settling criminal cases!

It's not. However, like all websites, folks like to air their dirty laundry behind the anonymity of the internet, thereby removing all semblance of civility.