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Had a wonderful time in Texas and was able to enjoy Geedubya’s great hospitality. Hunted 3 days across the South Texas Brush Country and the Hill Country and was fortunate enough to bag three nice pigs. Geedubya is fun to hunt, joke, and just hang out with. Pig #1 one was down in South Texas and was a weighed 160 lb boar that came in solo. Quartering to shot right into the neck shoulder joint DRT with the classic dirt paddle. About 150 yards out of an elevated box blind. He had quite the gristle shield on him. Our own Todd Thayn’s (just-a-hunter) knife was put to good use. This one is made out of an old horse hoof file or sumtpin like that. He had quite the gristle shield on him. Pig #2 was a sow in the Hill Country out of a sounder of about 15+ pigs. About a 100 yard shot out of a 17 ft elevated open tripod. I am not a huge fan of heights and it was little nerve racking as the pigs showed up just as I literally climbing onto the platform. So, I am trying to get all the way onto the platform, load my equipment onto the platform, not fall off, load my gun, and get a rest to shoot. Had to do a little tracking thru some thick stuff (about 40 yards) but had a good blood trail. Pig #3 on the last night, at last light and was another loan boar about 140 lbs from a ground box blind, about a 90 yard shot right thru the heart, DRT. Of course, we didn’t bring the 4 wheeler this time, so I had a nice 600 yard drag back to the road. I have to admit the extra exercise actually felt good, but my legs were soar the next day. Like hunting with my takedown 30-06 BLR more each time and it loves 168 grn TSXs over 57.5 grains of H4350. Load 2 on this target. It was a very efficient hunt. 4 rounds expended 3 dead pigs. LoL Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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Looks like you had a fun hunt! Not so much fun for the pigs though! | |||
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Good stuff...Did G-Dub have a cold Lone Star waiting for you after the hunt? | |||
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No cold Lonestar's waiting, the least I could do was furnish my host with libation and in an attempt to educate his pallet we celebrated with petite sirah and charbono. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Congrats, Mike. That's some excellent shooting on some nice Texas hogs. As to Geedubya, he's a classic -- truly a good person and someone I feel honored to have had the privilege of meeting & visiting with a bit. Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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I would add - quite the character and hoot to be around. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Good shooting Mike, always good to see dead hogs. "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..." Hosea 8:7 | |||
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And you picked "eaters" in all three cases. Nice work -- and extra points for doing it with a lever gun. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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My bad, I picked the wrong month to stop drinking. I decided to take a bit of time off, so I had not imbibed any type of adult beverage since March 20. Mike said he only drank water and wine. I told him I had a case of Carlo Rossi Piasano at the house and that we had access to plenty of ice. You'd a thought I'd said something insulting. No way Anywho, telling on Mike. I think we went through 5 bottles in 4 nights. IIRC he had one glass out of each bottle poor guy never had a chance! Mike at the "deer lease" and checking "zero" at my "Beer lease". Mighty fine! ya! GWB | |||
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I've always been fond of the Browning BLR..unfortunately I no longer own one. Thanks for the report! | |||
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Sure gets me pumped to go back to Texas to shoot some hogs, this time (hopefully) with a few days to hunt not just an evening and half a morning like last time. It was a blast. Gato was great. Good guy under that gruff exterior. Thanks for the post Mike. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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I very much enjoyed Mike's company and we were in close proximity from Tuesday afternoon through Saturday afternoon. There was not one moment of tension and hopefully he will not take offense or be embarrased by what I'm about to say. On our way back to town, I mentioned that being around him and hunting with him was almost like hunting with myself, as in many ways, his actions an mannerisms were like that of an old friend and close acquaintance, and I very much enjoy my own company! I've mentioned before, and this may just be subjective on my part but about fifteen years or so ago, if you mentioned you were from Texas and that you "hunted" over feeders", you were laughed to scorn. I have enjoyed having several folk from northern and western states come "perforate" hoglets with me. By the time they leave, at least by their own account, they realize, at least at my leases it ain't like the dinner bell chimes and they arrive, stand still and let you take several pokes! Here's hoping that you get to come back for more fun soon! ya! GWB | |||
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Outstanding fellas! Geedub you done good, my friend. Good shooting Mike, shoot all of the durned things. | |||
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Gdub: Hopefully I'll be knockin' 'em down soon. The fact that I'm not keen on being shuffled around by some outfitter like a herd of cattle has put a damper on finding a place to hunt. I prefer hunting with someone I know or at least am familiar with. Glad you clicked with Mike. About the feeders, I too had some reservations about feeder hunting. But, not any more. Feral swine are still wild. Get dem hogs. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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As a rule don't hunt "high fence". The ranches where I have my leases are both 60,000 + acres of low-fenced/no fenced land in sparsely developed areas of Texas. Too many of the high fenced areas are small "traps" where the animals cannot exist if there is not supplemental feeding. They have to come to where the "groceries" are. I know of instances where a guy could be taken to the area where the designated animal will be found in 15 minutes but the "guide" will drive around for an hour or two, to make sure the guy gets his "money's worth. At my Concan lease I have been hunting off the same feeders for +/- 14 years. What I do when I set up a location is that I will spin corn/milo/soybean/protien mix for +/- 3 months before I hunt that location. That way the pigs that are resident in the area get it in their piggy brains that that is where the groceries are and it becomes almost instinctual to come to the feeder. However, pigs are smart and it takes very little pressure and they will abandon a feeder for a time. I go up once a month and that gives time for the pigs to get back to their normal rythem. There are 9 guys on my Concan lease. Most of the year it's just me and one, maybe two guys that go up. However during deer season there is almost always someone there between Thursday and Sunday. To get to the stands, everyone has to go down a main road. I have noticed that during those periods when there is a lot of motion, noise and commotion the game seems to shrink into the cedar and not move about until the commotion settles down. I planned the outing with Mike so we would hunt Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, hopefully when things had settled down and no-one else would be around. I had been at the Woodsboro lease 5 days before I took Mike and had shot pigs at two locations. We were both able to shoot pigs that came in just after shooting light Wednesday morning. Mike had a second come in but did not get a shot. Neither of us got a shot that night. IMHO it was due to riding around and showing Mike the different locations. The next morning I got skunked due to my excessive activity at my stand. Mike on the other hand did not hunt the same location Tuesday evening and when he went back to where he sat the first morning he got another shot. I sat out Thursday eve, Friday morning and Friday eve and did not get a shot. Mike got shots at two of the three locations at which he set on those same outings. Another example. I know where the turkey at our lease tend to roost and hang out. I got one on my last trip. This time I hung out at the cistern where I nailed my last turkey two different evenings. No turkey. This may not be "spot and stalk hunting, but there is sufficient area and sufficient natural food sources that the animals we hunt do not have to come in to the "feeders". In the fall, if there is a good acorn crop and "mast" on the ground, one seldom sees deer come into the feeders, and bucks usually only during the rut when they are chasing does. I have done two bear hunts and two elk hunts. One bear hunt was with hounds. The outfitter and the guides knew where the bear were most likely to be. The second bear hunt was a spot and stalk hunt, but the outfitter had game cameras out and knew the area where the bears frequented and even knew the indiviual bears on sight. The one guided elk hunt, the outfitter and guides knew where the elk would come down, and where the mule deer would be. For the elk, it was a migration hunt and it was warmer in Bozeman that week than it was in Miami Florida. Consequently no elk. I've hunted the last three years with 26 guys on the 24hourcampfire hog hunt down in Crystal City. Guys come from all over the US, a couple from Canada, and one guy from Germany to perforate hogs, shoot the breeze and hang out. Some may not call it hunting Quien Sabe? I definitely call it fun, and hoglets are the best tasting bullet test media I've encountered to date! ya! GWB | |||
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In case you guys don't know Todd Thayn is a dyed-in-the-wool hunter and custom knife-maker. Mike let me know he was bringing his Todd Thayn hunting knife so I brought mine. Todd also made four knives for my two sons, grandson and S-I_L. I titled this: the Head Job! LOL http://forums.accuratereloadin...931083232#6931083232 and my other "Thayn" and the ones he made for my "boys" http://forums.accuratereloadin...971022822#4971022822 I've currently got an order in for a "bull nose" skinner. Can't wait to see what he comes up with! ya! GWB | |||
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BTW, if you took a gander of the buck my grandson shot in the second link of my previous post, it is a better deer than I have ever shot in 55 years of hunting east Texas and hill country working-mans' leases. I turned down three opportunities to "hunt" that ranch. It was over 3K acres, but it was high fenced. I would not have felt like I earned that deer, so........ ya! GWB | |||
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Looks like you all had a great hunt and posted a great report. Congratulations to all involved. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Geedubya, it has been primarily thanks to your posts that I have become convinced of the wisdom of stands and feeders for hunting feral hogs. Having grown up in the Northwest, where feeders are strictly illegal for antlered game, I still am not sure what I think of them for deer hunting. But considering the great damage these hogs do, all the gloves should come off. I remember seeing ads for Bob Lilly deer feeders in the back of Outdoor Life decades ago, and just scratched my head, wondering what they were for. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Very nice work Mike .Well done a lot of excellent meat . www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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