we are killing a lot of hogs in my farm selling the meat and testing ammo mostly the excellent NORMA ammo.http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/juanpozzi/Imagen014.jpg

first czfox 223 head shot .second 243winch mauser 1909argentine model ,douglas barrell.
3rd mauser 1909 300 winchester mag 20 inches barrel WE ARE TESTING THE SHORT MAGNUM WITH NEW POWDERS LOOSING ALMOST NOTHING VELOCITY.

Great report, great pictures. Those are all perfect eating size puerco.

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Looks like fun to me.

Pigs make the perfect test medium for trying out bullets and loads.

They eat pretty good too.

GWB

Nice hogs and rifles! Juan I was wondering if you have had much experience using solids on hogs. I have an ex-military rifle which has been giving me some problems feeding soft-points, I've used surplus solids with no problems on targets with this rifle, just wondering how they might work on the onikers.

Just an opine here Larry.

I would bet that for head shots or dead on shoulder shots the solids would work fine.

For a behind the shoulder heart/lung shot, on a boar with a heavy fighting plate, a solid would give good penetration but it might take a while for the pig to go down.

On sows or younger animals the H/L shot with a solid, would probably/possibly zip right on thru and the pig would haul ass out of the country.

I am not sure that would be a really be a bad thing, unless your trying to get some fresh pork to cook.

a solid thru the brain on any size hog out to work wonderfully.

Again, that is all just my opinion.

Good work, "The only good hog, is a DEAD hog!"

Keith

Very cool, Juan!

Larry ,we killed 90 percent of the hogs with military ammo ,5.56 ,7,62x51 and 7,65 argentine ,they work perfect on head shots and in shoulder shots the hogs run a media of 25 mts WE DONT RECOMMEND IN BIG MALE RUSSIAN BOARS AS WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE IN THE PAST WITH BODY SHOTS.
WE DONT USE THE 5.56 IN BODY SHOTS OR IN THE BUSH ,ONLY IN THE OPEN.
We sell all the meat are high prices so we controll the damage.By the way you must come to shoot some doves and hogs.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Just an opine here Larry.

I would bet that for head shots or dead on shoulder shots the solids would work fine.

For a behind the shoulder heart/lung shot, on a boar with a heavy fighting plate, a solid would give good penetration but it might take a while for the pig to go down.

On sows or younger animals the H/L shot with a solid, would probably/possibly zip right on thru and the pig would haul ass out of the country.

I am not sure that would be a really be a bad thing, unless your trying to get some fresh pork to cook.

a solid thru the brain on any size hog out to work wonderfully.

Again, that is all just my opinion.

Thank you for your thoughts, which make a lot of sense and go along with my general idea on the subject.

The only medium game I've take with a solid was from a .303 at about 12 yds or so on a doe whitetail. I shot her between the eyes, the bullet went on through the neck and came out of the near shoulder and hit a tree 10 yds from where I was standing.

I do eat sows from time to time and am in need of one right now, but I have to wait for the turkey season to end so I don't make folks angry by messing up their hunting. And for reasons I still don't totally grasp, I don't like anything I shoot run off on me, messes up the photo.

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
Larry ,we killed 90 percent of the hogs with military ammo ,5.56 ,7,62x51 and 7,65 argentine ,they work perfect on head shots and in shoulder shots the hogs run a media of 25 mts WE DONT RECOMMEND IN BIG MALE RUSSIAN BOARS AS WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE IN THE PAST WITH BODY SHOTS.
WE DONT USE THE 5.56 IN BODY SHOTS OR IN THE BUSH ,ONLY IN THE OPEN.
We sell all the meat are high prices so we controll the damage.By the way you must come to shoot some doves and hogs.

Juan thanks for sharing your experience, I thought I remembered that you did use military ammo a good bit, but I wasn't sure. I knew if you did you would have the straight scoop, as I know you killed more hogs last week than I have in my lifetime.

Once again thank you for your kind invitation to hunt with you. I would give my left testicle to do so, but I don't think it will pay for the airline ticket. My current finanical obligations will not allow me to do much traveling. That should change somewhat by August if things work out as I plan.

Again I am truely humbled by your invitation, the idea of hunting with you would indeed fullfil a dream of mine since my youth, which is long gone.

Thank you,
Larry

Very nice looking Hogs Jaun.

Larry why not slug your barrel on the rifle and use a hard cast bullet? I have loaded 215gr. Hard cast in .303 and shot them at over 2000fps with no leading of the bore. Very accurate and the bullets penetrate well.
Just a thought.

Larry every year i hunt 2 times in the patagonia one in summer one in winter perhaps someday you can came you would love it .This year i plan to hunt in the winter in heavy snow boars and red stag without the roaring i did it in the past and its quite challenge.
As you know i dont expend a lot in expensive ammo i have the luck that as im a tactical medicine and shooting trainer i can get some free ammo.
Besides that i have several boxes of NORMA and other marks here to test.

Palladin8,

Thanks for your response, that is an idea, actually the rifle in question is a Steyr model 95 which is a .330 cal. not that that matters.

I'm going to bow out as I don't want to take over Juan's thread, but thanks to all.

Regards,
Larry

please tell us more about your rifle

Juan the rifle in question is a sporterized Steyr Model 1895 in 8mmx56R. The 95 is a straight pull action and was the military rifle of Austria during WW1 in 8mmx50R, it was then shorten and rebarreled to 8mmx56R after the war. They are handy little carbines and are particullarly suited for hog hunting with dogs. The round is a good one, on par with the 8mmx57 mauser round. The bullet dia. is .329 or .330. The orginal round has a very sharply pointed bullet, solid of course. My handloads are softpoints, which seem to flatten out and hang up sometimes as the round is chambered. Hence I'm thinking of reloading some solids, to see if this fixes my problem.



That is the rifle in question, I'd be interested of course in any comment you might have.

Larry--came to me that you could use Barnes bullets--solid copper, pointed but hollow-points. They are a bit more expensive than cup and core, but should do the job. Not sure if they make one in your caliber however.

I don't believe that Barnes makes a .329 or .330 but I'll check and make sure. Thanks

very interesting gun ,and you are using the german or austria flecktarn camo ,congratulations .Ilike the rifle and the camo -50 percent of my blood is german and my wife Austrian i a big fan of military Mausers .

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
very interesting gun ,and you are using the german or austria flecktarn camo ,congratulations .Ilike the rifle and the camo -50 percent of my blood is german and my wife Austrian i a big fan of military Mausers .

Yep, that camo pattern is my favorite. My folks on my Dad's side immigrated to Louisiana from Alsace-Lorraine in the early 1700's. Alsace-Lorraine is a part of France now, but was German at the time of their immigration. The orginal spelling was Matern, the french added a H and an E, which they did not prounce, who knows why.

I have two military mausers, my favorite is an Argentine model 1891, which was sporterized before I got it. Actually I just got it last year, I've put a 2.75 Burris scout scope on it and have not taken anything with it as of yet. It is suprisingly accurate and pleasant to shoot.

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
very interesting gun ,and you are using the german or austrian flecktarn camo ,congratulations .Ilike the rifle and the camo - im 50 percent piamontes 50 percent of my blood is german swiss, and my wife is Austrian, im a big fan of military Mausers my favourite the 1909.

Do you know that the germans has this camo during ww2.