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Point being, with a little care, tenderloins can be removed using a small incision made along the upper flank just behind the last rib and parallel to the spine. Doing it this way, you never have to open the belly to get to the delicious tender morsels we all love so much.



Coincidentally, I opened up to page 6 of the December/January 2010 issue of Outdoor Life to find a letter to the editor and the author's response further clarifying this method of tenderloin removal.
 
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+1 on Sawzall.

I keep one in my truck toolbox at all times just for splitting carcasses, taking ribs, and lopping off feet and heads.

My friends that haven't see it in action for the first time think I'm totally nuts when I pull it out, but by the time the job is done they say they'd like to do the same next time.
+2 on the sawzall. in fact i use a Ryobi just like in the picture but with a different blade.


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What about the tenderloins? Don't tell me you're throwing away the best meat on the hog to save time and dealing with guts. Eeker


Agreed. Would be a shame to waste those delicious little morsels.

Hope you fellas don't mind a little tangent here, but...

"Tenderloins" (psoas muscles) are technically not in the abdomen, but are a "retroperitoneal" muscle located between the abdominal cavity and the lower (lumbar) spine. This is the same anatomic space occupied by the kidneys.

Point being, with a little care, tenderloins can be removed using a small incision made along the upper flank just behind the last rib and parallel to the spine. Doing it this way, you never have to open the belly to get to the delicious tender morsels we all love so much.

Make your incision approximately where the dotted lines converge between the "Rump" and "Backstrap" in this image:



To give you a better idea of what we're dealign wiht, below are the psoas muscles (major and minor) as found in us humans, knuckle draggers included. In humans, they get quite a workout as they help to lift the leg (provide "flexion") with each step. That's only because we walk upright. In deer and other quadrupeds, they get less of workout because the leg is already in the flexed position and they work much less, hence their juicy tenderness.

Alright! Alright! Enough of all this mumbo jumbo shit... I'm hungry!

either the brisket and flank arrows in the top pic are reversed or i have been wrong about basic anatomy for a long time.


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either the brisket and flank arrows in the top pic are reversed or i have been wrong about basic anatomy for a long time.



Hahaha!!!! rotflmo

That's hilarious. If the top diagram is correct, then I have been wrong for many years as well. Eeker

If the bottom one is incorrect, I'll be in facing a grand jury soon! Wink
 
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What the heck is a butt out tool, and where can you find them? The name sounds self-explanatory, but how does it work?


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What the heck is a butt out tool, and where can you find them? The name sounds self-explanatory, but how does it work?

Here you go.

Looks like they even have a video. I think Cabela's carries it.
 
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Not to start a Hatfield and McCoy Fued...

But when I shoot something I want to see what the bullet did.

So I always gut and do a little research on the "innards".

On my trips to Africa I always went to the skinning shed, and also stood by and got my hands dirty on elephant and giraffe to see what the bullets did.

I had the PH explain th the skinners that I was not there to "watch" there work, but to see what the bullet did...

Even when I have had 5 dead pigs to do I still did a "proper post mortem" on them.

I have even got my hands dirty on a few "real" autoposies, but that is another story.

IMHO that is the only way to really know what the bullet did.


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Also if the weather is cool, below 40 degrees I like to let the animal hang for a day or three.


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I've got a good friend of mine who is the same way, he can quote you dozens if not hundreds of velocities for various factory loads and bullets, etc and is always digging around in the animals for bullets, wound paths etc. More power to him, but I don't give a damn. For me, bullet performance can be summed up very briefly, the animal is dead, hanging there, and that's that. I don't ignore bullet construction and performance and I use appropriate bullets for the situation, but digging around to prove it worked when the animal is dead right there is not for me. I know it worked, the proof is hanging there. To each his own.


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As a side note, tonight I cooked Rosemary Pork Loin from a wild pig I shot with my 450 No2, 500gr Hornady SP. Big Grin


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That is fine, each to his own...

I have been known to spend an hour of more "sifting' through the innards looking for a bullet that did not exit...

If A bullet does not exit I LOVE to recover it. thumb


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Why?


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If the bullet does not exit I like to recover it as I consider it a trophy/keepsake/memento of the hunt.

Here is a strange one for you...
I shot a red fox in Alaska in deep snow at @325/340 yards with my 300 Mag and a 200gr Federal Trophy Bonded Bearclaw.

The bullet exited the fox.
I had an Innuitt with me, and he saw the bullet track in the snow and was able to find it. dancing

The amazing thing was, is that it had expanded to the same diameter as another TB bullet that I had shot and recovered form an elk at near 400 yards, and the same as one I recovered from an elk I shot at @100 yards. The 100 yard recovered bullet had less of a shank left but the "mushroom" was about the same diameter.

Recovering these 3 bullets, taken from 2 vastly different sized animals and different ranges illustrated to me just how great the 200gr TB bullet is in the 300 Win Mag....

If you read my posts I give a lot of recommendations of bullet selection in different calibres for different game animals....

I do so baised on what I have actually "seen".

Not only that the animal "died" but what the bullet actually did...

I do it for the knowledge...


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I rarely do deer ribs but if you want to try them, boil them and keep skimming the fat off. Then BBQ them or roast them. Not a whole lot of meat but they taste good.
 
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All I can say is gatogordo invited my Grandson and I to hunt his place last year. He was an excellent host and we shot 2 damn nice deer.
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Shhhhhh.....you'll spoil my image..... most of the conservatives in the PF think I'm queer....... rotflmo


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NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.

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PS: We're barbecuing this Sat (weather permitting, forecast looks good for now), if you're going to be hunting on your lease, come on over, beer and Q is on me.


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Guys,
Take it from a conservative that is to the right of Atilla the Hun. I've shared a campfire or two, a couple bottles of wine, some meade and some opportunities for him to "make this story short". He may be opinionated, obstinate, and obstreperous,and although I may not agree with his opinions or political views, from what I have seen he's a man to tie to. I'd stand beside him, or up for him any day.

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I consider Gatogordo to be such a friend
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I'm honored, amigo and the feeling is mutual. I didn't know you were queer too. dancing


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Gato,
If trying to make my own way, not wanting anything from anyone that I have not worked for, earned, or paid for, asking nothing from no man other than respect, letting my yes be yes, and my no be no, taking care of my family and friends makes me "queer", then yes, I resemble that remark.
Best to you and yours this holiday season, and hope to see you soon.
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asking nothing from no man other than respect, letting my yes be yes, and my no be no, taking care of my family and friends makes me queer, then yes, I resemble that remark.


That nails it brother. Damn that was well put. I wish I could turn a phrase like that. Even so, I'm in that same very small crowd.
BTW, it goes without saying you're invited to the Q, I figured you'd be hunting out west. Come on up, I'll look up one of Tiger's girl friends for you, or even if she ain't, she'll tell you you're better........ Big Grin


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When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere.

NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR.

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