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Just wanted to share pictures of pigs from around the world.  My favorite is LUCY my pet Polynesian Pig  Japanese Inoshishi  African Red River Hog  Indonesian Babirusa  African GIANT Forest Pig  Malayan Bearded Pig  European Wild Boar  African Wart Hog  African Bush Pig  Collered Peccary (Javelina)  White Lipped Peccary  Chacoan Peccary  ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM | ||
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Wow, that's really interesting! The bearded variety was totally unfamiliar for me and the peccaries look like pets. The babirusa I was aware of, but I still wonder how they can manage with those tusks pointing at and probably sometimes growing into their forehead. | |||
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All would make really interesting mounts....... Do you have information about the various breeds of wild hogs you posted? Thanks a bunch for posting these photos! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Those are awesome. One change I would make though is the collered pecary, he is a big rat and belongs in the "vermin international" photo gallery. Perry | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JTH: The bearded variety was totally unfamiliar for me and the peccaries look like pets.QUOTE] Pound for pound they are one of the meanest and toughest animals in north america, especially in groups. There's nothing that scares me more in Texas than walking through the brush and hearing them snapping their teeth around you but not being able to see them. | |||
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I understand that they are hell on dogs too. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Really? What do they do, bite or what? | |||
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HH, Very cool indeed...thanks. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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My understanding is that they will attack and kill dogs based on their natural reaction to coyotes. Rattlesnaker could give the real scoop, as I have not seen it first hand. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Before things get out of hand on this, the Peccaries, are related to true pigs. True pigs are Suidae. Peccaries are Tayassuidae. The 2 families split apart 3 to 5 million years ago. Until the spanish came to the new world, there were no true pigs in North America, only peccaries. Peccaries tusks self sharpen as they open and close their mouth. They have to actually bite, they don't open their mouths and slash to the sides. They are not really impressed with human superiority, and in spite of what some writers hav said, a wounded Javelina will charge with full intent of biting you. Also a group of Javelinas will respond to a piglet in distress call as a group and things get really interesting fast. Javelina have a rudimentary 3 chambered stomach, only 1 dewclaw on their hind foot, 4 mammaries, but only 2 are functional, and a musk gland that is in the skin on their back, a few inches above their tail. They can not spray the musk like a skunk, but the can thru muscle action force drops of the skunky smelling liquid out thru the opening in the gland. The gland does not come in contact with the meat. They have very little fat on them if any, and if fixed right it is very good to eat. The animals with the best tusks are going to be the mid size to larger animals in a group. Single animals off by themselves are usually older boars that have been run out of a group, and from my experience usually have really worn down tusks. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I was sure someone will show up to explain that peccaries and pigs are different things !! You have avoid me a tough translation  Very interesting topic and a very good report about pigs and peccaries. I have heard that in the paraguayan chaco the big groups of peccaries are something to take seriously. L | |||
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OK, seems like they mean business, at least in some situations. But tell me more; do you hunt them and how? Do you eat them or are they just vermins? How big do they grow and are there big differences between the Collered Peccary and the White Lipped Peccary except the looks? | |||
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Never had any experience with the White-lipped. Have heard reports that they do form larger groups than the Collared/Javelina. I have been hunting them for the past 9 years, the last 4 doing guided hunts. Javelinas are very good eating if the meat is handled properly after the kill. The average size on the ranch where we do our hunts is around 48 pounds. Our largest animal was taken with one shot, heart & lung, at about 40 yards, with a 22 Long Rifle. Our hunts are done Safari-Style. Our 2006 hunt took place during the week of 4-March thru 12-March. We had 7 hunters and 3 guides, and we killede a total of 18 Javelina. If anyone is interested in more info, you can contact us @ crazyhorseconsulting@yahoo.com Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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HH, Is there pig hunting on Maui? If so, what does it cost? Thanks, PG | |||
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I've never paid for a hunt so not really sure, but for about $99 for a non-resident license you could hunt public land in Unit C Kula Forest Reserve, open area so glassing and stalking best way to hunt. Other public lands very heavy vegetation so requires dogs. Here's a few links to hunting operations on private lands here. Reputations are good, and success ratio very high: http://www.tombarefoot.com/maui/hunting_safari.html http://www.mauihunting.com/ http://www.mauihuntingsafari.com/about_us.htm http://www.mauideerhunting.com/index.htm ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM | |||
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JTH- Sorry for slow reply. Yes Pecarries are unique to the new world The Collared Peccary (Tayassu tajacu) are the only Peccary found in the USA. They are also the smallest of the Peccaries growing to: Shoulder Height: 30-50 cm / 1-1.6 ft. Weight: 14-31 kg / 31-68 lb. The White-lipped Peccary (Tayassu pecari) form the largest herds with groups numbering up to 100 individuals, they also have a fearce reputation in the South American Rain Forests. Thay are also a larger Peccary growing to: Shoulder Height 40-60 cm / 1.3- 2.0 ft. Body Weight 25-40 kg. / 55-88 lb. The Chacoan Peccary (Catagonus wagneri) are native to the dry briars in Gran Chaco (northwest Argentina, northwest Paraguay, and southern Bolivia) are were thought to be extinct known only from fossils until recently discovered alive in 1972. They are the largest Peccary and grow to: Shoulder Height: 52-69 cm / 1.7-2.3 ft. Weight: 30-43 kg / 66-95 lb. The Chacoan are protected as an endangered species, so is the Babirusa above. ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM | |||
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Here's a couple more lesser known pigs: Indian Pygmy Pig  Visayan (Philipines) Warty Hog  Harley Davidson Hog  ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM | |||
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Thanks for the info! If those small cute peccaries can give you trouble, I guess the tiny Indian Pygmy Pig in your last post must be a real badass | |||
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Let a rat of those catch on your leg!! They have incredibly sharpen tusks, plus they bite like dogs, wich are more than often killed by peccary, so be aware of them, don´t think that because they are small they're harmless. | |||
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I learned the name Pecari tajacu when I attended college too many splitters in the bio sciences field renaming every critter. | |||
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scr83jp-- They have a new "tool" -- DNA analysis and they use it to justify their splitting. I guess they check DNA and if there is X % difference between two groups, they make a split. The bird folks are infamous for doing that. An old pilot, not a bold pilot, aka "the pig murdering fool" | |||
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Here in Argentina i guaranteed lipped peccary,collared pecary ,russian boar and feral boar in one week .Juan www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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I shot my first javelina in 1948, then shot one a year for the next 30-35 years with muzzleloaders, handguns, bows and rifles. I don't hunt them now, but I can say that I have never felt threatened by a javelina -- except when quail hunting over pointing dogs. Invariably, a dog will bump into a herd of javelinas, then run straight back to his handler or the closest human with the entire herd of javelians snapping at its heels. I have seen this happen a dozen times, and the only thing that gets the javelinas to leave is a couple of doses of No. 7 1/2 shot at point-blank range. Incidentally, Juanpozzi can explain this better, but there is a misconception that javelinas are called that because their teeth are like "javelins." Not so. The name comes from the Spanish "jabali" (hah-ba-lee) or wild boar. It was an easy transition from "jabalina" (little wild boar) to javelina. Bill Quimby | |||
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As always my friend Bill knows more than everybody ,we must remember that hes one of the most prolifics authors of big game and big game hunters and that he hunted all his life in every part of the world.Yes wild boar in spanish is jabali so the name javelinas ,here the most common manner of hunting lipped or collared peccary is the monteria we release a big pack of mostly barking dogs from one side on the bush and we wait in the other side with shotguns ,i can assure thats is very exiting to hear the teeh of the peccaries and the dogs running toward you ,i hunted a lot of peccaries brocket deer and even pumas in this manner Juan www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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Can anyone provide any information about the African Red Forest Hog? Are there hunting opportunities? I know that there are for the Warthog, Bush Pig and the Giant Forest Hog, but what about the Red River Hog? FWIW, some yoears go, I read an article by a writer who coined the "Grand Slam of Ham", I thought it was a pretty interesting idea, collecting a specimen of all the legal "hog" animals, including all the javelinas. Best thing about it, you would have to travel to the Americas, Europe or anywhere the purer strains of Wild Boar were found, Africa and some Asian countries. Now as noted in previous posts, there are some animals that are protected suchas the Barbirosa, the Chacoan Peccary and some others, but it'd be an interesting project. Charles | |||
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