Had a buddy send me these a few days ago of a nice boar they got with the dogs. Good set of tusk on him lucky for the dogs as only one dog had him while the other dogs had another boar with 4 inch hooks. Lucky bugger

Now That is a great set of teeth.
He has just got to mount that one.
Where was it taken?

Cheers John

everytime i shoot a pig i'm wishing it had teeth like that. he would be going on my wall for sure!

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Originally posted by budiceale:
everytime i shoot a pig i'm wishing it had teeth like that. he would be going on my wall for sure!

+ 1 -- they'd definitely end up on my wall too!

Yep hes goin on the wall Back in the day my Grandfather and Father never cared much for jaws or mounting anything unless it had a huge meaning. It was all about food I can remember all the jaws we buried through the years crazy ones too. Heres a pic of both the head and the jaw of the other boar he caught at the same time.



Aloha!

PS Phatman these boars were caught here on the Island of Oahu, Hawaii

Man! Your hogs all seem to have great cutters!

wow, those are some great pigs, don't see that everyday.

Great hogs, congratulations.

Top hooks, both sets.

It is said that eventually those type of hooks an cause real problems when they re enter the skin, causing infection and the like.

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Awesome...

Whew! Now that's a set of teeth!


Mad Dog

I was curious about those cutters. They don’t look normal to me, and I was wondering if the Polynesian cross had anything to do with it. Also, I had read somewhere, on some ranches; the hogs are caught in traps, castrated then released for later harvest. As I remember, the cutters on those castrated boars grew different than the intact boars.

Anyway, a friend and I are planning a trip to Hawaii next winter for some hog hunting. We prefer rifle hunting over knife, spear and dogs. We are still researching.

I was curious about the Polynesian hog, and heard that is the species in Hawaii, crossed with the Euro wild hog. So, I went on-line, and did a little research. The following are some excerpts from that research.

Excerpt from "Nature out of Place" available from Island Press:
“Today Hawaii has the dubious reputation of being ‘the extinction capital of the world.’ Others have labeled it the ‘introduced species capital of the world’. Though many introduced species are implicated in the conversion of native systems to alien ones, there is a strong consensus among scientists and land managers that feral pigs, more than any other invader, are now responsible for initiating and driving this process further into the state's remaining intact native forest."

According to the USGS's Pacific Island Ecosystems Research Center:
"the small (20 kilos) Polynesian pig has been completely replaced by larger (200 kilo) domesticated European breeds (shown here) introduced to the archipelago about 200 years ago."

"The Polynesian pig was domesticated and weighed 40 to 50 pounds, a fraction of the 200 plus of the introduced wild boar. There is little or no evidence that the Polynesian pig spread far from the Hawaiian settlements." (Dr Loope is the Station Leader of the Haleakala Field Station

Hawaii's feral pigs arrived from Europe
Letter to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, City Edition, Friday September 7, 2001
Congratulations on the excellent article on Aug. 12 by Anthony Sommer about the work of paleoecologist David Burney at Maha'ulepu on Kauai. Burney's work gives a marvelous perspective on the drastic changes that have occurred in the environment of the islands starting with the arrival of humans perhaps 1,200 years ago. Your article states: "Bones of pigs brought by the Polynesians begin appearing and the bones of flightless birds begin disappearing, indicating they were slowly hunted to extinction." This wording may suggest that pigs quickly became widespread in the forest after Polynesians arrived. I have questioned Burney and his colleagues on this topic. It seems that the small bones of Polynesian pigs are found in conjunction with Polynesian human habitation sites such as coastal Maha'ulepu -- not in contemporaneous upland sites studied by Burney and others, where the bones of Pacific rats are typically the best marker of human presence on an island. Polynesian pigs seem to have been carefully tended by the early Hawaiians and not to have invaded upland forests. Bones of the larger feral European pigs, which roam Hawaii's forests today and wreak havoc on the native plants and animals, do not appear in the pre-Captain Cook sinkhole strata.
Lloyd Loope
Makawao, Maui

According to the Hawaii Division of Forestry and Wildlife:
“We've found no evidence that pig hunting existed before the arrival of the introduced wild boar. The pig is not a native animal. Pigs were of importance to the ancient Hawaiian people because they were a prized source of food. Because they were so valuable, the pigs were not allowed to roam free in the forest, but rather were carefully tended to by the owners."

http://www.waialeale.org
“We suspect that most of the wild boar in Hawaii, after you factor in the cost of feeding the hounds, putting gas in the pickup, buying guns, permits and ammo, is probably pricier than filet mignon.”

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
I was curious about those cutters. They don’t look normal to me, and I was wondering if the Polynesian cross had anything to do with it. Also, I had read somewhere, on some ranches; the hogs are caught in traps, castrated then released for later harvest. As I remember, the cutters on those castrated boars grew different than the intact boars.

Those cutters just look like they are not grinding down or if they are, only partially.

We see them here occasionally, either missing the Grinders because they are
growing on the wrong angle, broken cutters that stops them working as normal
or damage to the jaw.

Once they miss the Grinders, the cutters can grow in all sorts of shapes and directions.

Edited - sorry, I put cutters where I meant to put Grinders. Now rectified
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incredible never saw something like this .....congratulations

Kabluewy- There is no difference the reason Laho'ole boars tusk grow out is because the upper filers are removed to allow the boars to grow extremely long,thick tusk.

500- You are correct

Nice one brah.

Looking at those pictures again, it doesn't look like it will be long before
that boar starts to get a sore and infected jaw, and then watch him get cranky !!! LOL

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The only inhabited island in Hawaii where domestic pigs were never introduced, is the privately owned island of Niihau. All of the pigs there are decendants of the original Polynesian pigs. They do look a little different, having narrower frames, longer snouts, bigger ears and are smaller overall. Rarely, will a full grown boar get over 125 lbs. Exceptions have been taken, however.

Geoff

Aloha Geoff,
I must say the difference in the appearance of the pigs on Niihau from that of other feral hogs is huge. It really took me by surprise the first time there. I would love to go back again but it dosnt look like that is going to happen any time soon. If docs cant get this sorted out my hunting days may be finished. Niihau was a great place. I enjoyed my time hunting with you

Aloha Mike,
It's good to hear from you. Hope that you get whatever ails you sorted out so you can continue hunting. Just got back from Niihau yesterday. There has been much rain this past year and it continues to rain. Standing water is everywhere. The brush, weeds, and grass are all very tall. The porkers are doing better than ever but are very difficult to spot in the brush and we shot less than a dozen.

We were forced to go up the mountain and concentrate on feral sheep to burn up the ammo and give the shooters what they were looking for.

Geoff

Congratulations! Absolutely beautiful

O