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While doing a few chores around the place I heard dogs barking. Listening for a moment I realized they were on my land and getting closer. I grabbed my frankenmauser Whelen and went to investigate, my old Lab mix dog falling in behind me. As I got closer the squealing started, telling me in no uncertain terms a hog was involved.

When I found the source of all the rumpus there were four dogs on one young boar, three hounds and a pit bull. The dogs, when they saw my old lab, immediately let the hog go and headed for my dog with obviously bad intentions. As the hog was running off I quickly shot him and slammed home another round to deal with the errant hounds, but luckily (for them) they decided to vacate my property in all haste.

I hit the young boar a little far back, but he went down and never even moved. The closeup of the ear is where the pit bull was chewing on it.
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Glad your dog didn't get hurt and nice shooting.


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Glad your dog is OK! We have people in this area who insist on trespassing all over creation while running hogs. It irritates me to no end. They have no respect for fences, for livestock (often-times the poorly-trained dogs start chasing area cattle) or the premise of private land ownership.

A few years ago, one moron said it was OK for him to disrupt the entire area during deer season because they were following a dry creek. In Texas, a small creek is not public property and affords no access without permission, and secondly, that was a stupid thing to do considering how many folks hunt deer. Unintended as it may have been, he could have wound up in the backdrop of someone's shot -- a situation where the hunter would have expected no one to be in the area.

Twice our dog Charlie was the victim of attacks from so-called "hog dogs." He was ultra-friendly, never aggressive and wouldn't fight back. I hated to do it, but there was only one way to end those 2 situations.


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Many of the ranchers where I have hunted in Texas have asked me to shoot any wild dogs, coyotes, or cougars I may see. They do not like free running predators.


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Yes, I'm a dog lover, but I have a lot of calves on the ground this year and if I see those dogs anywhere near them it's triple S time.


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We have people in this area who insist on trespassing all over creation while running hogs. It irritates me to no end.


Do not feel like the "Loan Arranger " Bobby or Hogfarmer, that is a statewide problem and folks up in this area are dfamn quick about calling the GW's and reporting those activities.

Some of those guys really don't get it that there dogs have no more right to trespass then they do.


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hog farmer-

I forgot to say "congrats" on the hog. That's a unique coloration on the spotted boar. We don't see many like that around here.


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Thanks Bobby, and yep, I'd say the hogs in my area are 90% black, 8% red and 2% spotted. Nothing scientific about my estimates, just my opinion based on years spent in the woods.


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Next time shoot the dogs first!
Especially if they're headed for yours.
Too late this time.
You can get the hog later generally.

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Next time shoot the dogs first!
Especially if they're headed for yours.
Too late this time.
You can get the hog later generally.

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You're probably correct in your assessment, but it's really hard for this old hog hunter to bypass a shot at a hog. However, the miscreant canines now have one strike in a game consisting of two strikes.


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Could the dogs be wild rogue dogs? Seem pretty wild to want to attack a domestic dog. Just curious if it is possible to differential between a working dog and a wild one. Wild dog heading towrds my dog = dead wild dog(s). Protection of life and property deal.


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Could the dogs be wild rogue dogs? Seem pretty wild to want to attack a domestic dog. Just curious if it is possible to differential between a working dog and a wild one. Wild dog heading towrds my dog = dead wild dog(s). Protection of life and property deal.

They were too well fed, plus they were the typical hog hunting pack. Hounds to trail the scent and a pitbull for when they catch up to the hog. That being said, don't confuse them with the typical family pet dog. Whole different animal, a lot more aggressive.


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Thanks for the mini-lesson. I am the wiser.
Nice shot.


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Just a comment here but in this area we have folks that drive the dirt roads with 4 to 6 dogs in the back of their pick ups, complete with the vests.

Once the driver spots some hogs they pull up right next to the fence and start turning the dogs loose, does not matter that they or their dogs do not have permission to be on the property.

It is a problem all across the state.


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If I had land there, I think I would be contemplating to draw a line at 30-40 yards and if the dogs cross it boom. Got to protect life and property. Then again, I don't live there. So, there might be a fine legal line I don't know about. Y'all be safe. Git dem hogs!


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Here, the line is at the fence, once ANYTHING crosses over or under the fence it is on Private Property.

If the owner of the dogs do not have permission to cross the fence, neither do the dogs.


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Ok Randall. When it does happen, what do YOU do about it?

Here in CO when asking permission to call coyotes or hunt other things. Many times we've been told by ranchers: "there's dogs running with 'em, shoot the dogs first". So we have the few times we've had the chance.

Funny thing back about '98 seeing a medic at Denver VA. He knew I called coyotes and asked if I still did and if I got down by the Huerfano Butte." "sometimes why?" "I own some land there and last month a rottweiler was with a pack and met me at the gate and wouldn't let me out of the truck, i didn't have a gun. Sure would appreciate if you'd fix that problem for me". "I'll try Tom".

Made a special drive there to check it out. Sure thing, I was ready to shoot when i drove up. Here they came real nasty rotty. I mailed his collar to Tom without even a note. He contacted the owners there in Denver. They'd stopped to p, and let the dog out to go. He took off and wouldn't come back.
Problem solved.

Seems dogs get turned loose a lot by folks that don't want 'em any longer. One of the first things they learn is killing calves.

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George, when I was a kid growing up in the 50's and 60's, and up until about 1990, roughly my first 40 years of life, in this part of Texas, I could get permission to hunt rabbits/varmits/doves and ducks on about 2/3rds. of the properties in this area.

There basically were no hogs or very few and it was before Competitive Deer Hunting took off.

Now with a few small exceptions, hunting of any kind is tied up into Annual Leases, many of them run from April 1 of to March 31 of the next year, and you best not be caught on any those properties with a firearm unless you work for the landowner.

The way it is usually handled in this area is that there is basically an "Unorganised" Neighbotrhood watch. Most of us or all of us have cell phones and have enough numbers stored including the local GW's and we know pretty well who is supposed to be in the area and who isn't and none of us are one damn bit bashful about following anm unknown vehicle and if necessary making contact with the driver to see if they need help finding some one or some property and then we pass the word around or if we can get their license plate number, phoning it ionto the GW and letting him run it thru the computer.

Course when you run on to a small caravan of a pickup with 4 to 6 dogs in the back end with fighting vests/collars on, with one or two newer pickups or SUV's with two or more people in each vehicle following fairly close behind, driving the dirt roads the last couple of hours of daylight checking out the wheatfields, it is a pretty safe bet that they aren't on a "Nature Tour"!


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George, when I was a kid growing up in the 50's and 60's, and up until about 1990, roughly my first 40 years of life,

Kid for 40 years growing up?
 
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