I've been out of the country for 3 weeks, hunting in Germany and Austria and attending a convention (and a bit of hunting) in Namibia, so the pigs on most of my place have been unmolested for almost a month. My youngest son did, however; shoot 3 pigs around his deer stand. This past weekend I went down and as I was unlocking a gate a procession of pigs, big, little and in between started running from my next door neighbors wheat field, so I shot three of them, all medium size, with a suppressed AR 15. Saturday morning I went back over to that pasture and there was probably 45-50 pigs of all size and color feasting on wheat. When they heard my truck they all ran for the creek (which is on my place) and I managed to kill 5 more of them, 1 big one, 3 medium size and 1 small one, all with the same AR.
Funny thing, they are tearing hell out of my neighbors wheat but he doesn't want anyone hunting the pigs.

Good for him, fatten them up for you.
don't complain! Just keep shootin!

George

Karl, that's some very fine work you are doing. Hope one or two of those were eaters, if you and your family like pork. Is your AR in .223? I was thinking this job might actually be a perfect application of the .300 Blackout.

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Funny thing, they are tearing hell out of my neighbors wheat but he doesn't want anyone hunting the pigs.

Actually that is pretty common all over Texas and those folks have their reasons.

One of the more common ones is bad experiences wioth "Hunters"!!!!

You might try some low key "PR" with the person, might work/might not.

In rural areas around the state many landowners do lease their properties to hunters, usually folks living in or near the larger suburban/metropolitan areas.

Some of those folks are really great folks but some are living advertisements for why some folks should not drive cars or own guns.

On another side of the equation is the concept that locals usually are not financially able to lease those properties and with theb lack of "Public Land" in Texas end up with no place to hunt.

It is a vicious set of circumstances that some land owners do not want to gert drug into, but usually are. The reason those pigs took off at the sound of your truck is because locals drive the roads and if they see hogs, they start shooting and have no intention of picking up any they kill.

In this area we have sort of an unorganised neighborhood watch and iof we see unfamiliar vehicles cruising thru an area, we make note of license plates, make and model of vehicle, how many occupants if possible. Then share the information with each other and/or the Game Warden.

Had one "Junior Achiever" in the area that had some "Hog Dogs" and he would take clients out and they would follow him ih their vehicles and when he would see some hogs in a field, he would pull over next to the fence and turn loose.

Only problem was he didn't always have permission to be on those properties and the clients were not aware of that. Thankfully he finally got shut down.

We still have those individuals however that are familiar enough with the area to know when there won't be much/if any traffic on the dirt roads and they will roam around and shoot or try to shoot any hogs or coyotes they see and just leave them.

Good Luck with your neighbor, sometimes their minds can be changed if a person approaches them in the right way.

Sounds like a fun time Mr. Evans.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

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Funny thing, they are tearing hell out of my neighbors wheat but he doesn't want anyone hunting the pigs.

Actually that is pretty common all over Texas and those folks have their reasons.

Yep many NO's are justified. Yet others will make it tough for honest, respectable hunters sometimes. Can't avoid the butthole factor.

I knocked on many local doors for permission to hunt near my house. A few reasons why not, the first being by far the most prevalent.

1. Nah, my kids hunt deer and so do my brothers and grandsons. All is good here, great conversation on hunting, the game commission, hand shakes.
2. No sorry, archery only and only four guys can hunt here.
3. Hell no you can't shoot here. There are houses over that hill down in the (hidden) gully.
4. No sorry. We did until they put those houses in there over the hill.
5. No way sir. Some son-of-a-bitch shot one of my best steers and then ran leaving it laying there.
6. Well we have deer but my Wife won't allow it anymore. We left two guys go out just a couple years ago and while my Wife was in the garden with her best bud the goat, one of the guys had the scope on the goat and it freaked her out.
7. No we stopped that about 5 years ago and closed off the walkways to both hunters and fisherman. We just got tired of picking up their trash. Enough is enough.
8. What? You must be dreaming if you think you're going to shoot my deer pal.
9. No, we like to feed them and watch them come out every night. They're like pets to us.
10. We left a guy shoot a buck once and he left the guts lay right out in the open.

Really good response and examples.

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Yep many NO's are justified. Yet others will make it tough for honest, respectable hunters sometimes. Can't avoid the butthole factor.

I knocked on many local doors for permission to hunt near my house. A few reasons why not, the first being by far the most prevalent.

1. Nah, my kids hunt deer and so do my brothers and grandsons. All is good here, great conversation on hunting, the game commission, hand shakes.

2. No sorry, archery only and only four guys can hunt here.

3. Hell no you can't shoot here. There are houses over that hill down in the (hidden) gully.

4. No sorry. We did until they put those houses in there over the hill.

5. No way sir. Some son-of-a-bitch shot one of my best steers and then ran leaving it laying there.

6. Well we have deer but my Wife won't allow it anymore. We left two guys go out just a couple years ago and while my Wife was in the garden with her best bud the goat, one of the guys had the scope on the goat and it freaked her out.

7. No we stopped that about 5 years ago and closed off the walkways to both hunters and fisherman. We just got tired of picking up their trash. Enough is enough.

8 What? You must be dreaming if you think you're going to shoot my deer pal.

9. No, we like to feed them and watch them come out every night. They're like pets to us.

10. We left a guy shoot a buck once and he left the guts lay right out in the open.

5,6,7 and 10 are among the most common around here with 9 being less common as deer/hogs got more plentiful and people started realiziong that they could make somer good $$$$ leasing out the hunting rights.

So true, those examples. If just one hunter doesn't show respect for the landowner, it tends to ruin access for the rest.

I have seen places in the D/FW Metroplex that had been open to the Public around lakes in the area that were cvlosed simply due to Public Littering!

That's right Randall (CHC). I forgot about the recent increasing lease factor for hunting whitetails in PA and also Maryland.

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I have seen places in the D/FW Metroplex that had been open to the Public around lakes in the area that were closed simply due to Public Littering!

Yep, there is about 1200 acres of Corp of Engineer's land across the road from my house (maybe a mile away) that is teeming with pigs and quite a few deer but is closed due to a-holes dumping litter and hundreds of tires. Don't blame the COE for closing it.
What did it for me was people leaving bottles of urine in my deer stands and driving across pastures when I specifically told them not to drive there. No more.

Oh yeah, I shot two more medium size pigs this evening, total of 10 in 6 days. All with an AR 15 in .223

CONGRATULATIONS on all the oinkers!

Mr. Evans,

Way to stack 'em.

Keeping short reins on hunters seems to be the best way to go.
A dozen or so years ago, a landowner raising Holsteins 10 miles from here had a good idea for hunting on her land. She made everyone park in one location near the barn after their names and addresses were put on a list. I hunted there one or two years. No litter, no problems, hunters were evenly spaced.

Then she left and her husband didn't list their names anymore and told them, park here at the barn but never counted the number of hunters or monitored anything. They drove through his fields and were posting everywhere in close proximity to one another, sometimes within 35 yards.
Long story short, at first light, first day of buck, as the haze wore off, there was (what appeared to be a pumpkin patch of) hunter orange a couple hundred yards in front of me and a guy in a tree 15 yards in front of me as well. I left to hunt elsewhere.

CB