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I don't know if ya'll have seen this or not, but I thought it was pretty cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...GA-c&feature=related ________________________________________________ Never met a Colt I didn't like. | ||
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That's what happens when you use cheap fragile bullets !!  Next time use tungsten cored solids !! | |||
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And that was not even a very big pig.  Could not tell for sure but it looked like the bullet jacket seperated from the lead core. Whether the soft lead enetrated the skull I cannot tell from the video. I wish he has showed us the "front" of the bullet. Once again a Hard Cast bullet would have done the job. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Those morons don't realize that he didn't even hit the hog until the third shot when he shoots it in the eye. The impact from the bullet would have blown a inch or so diameter hole in the skin if it didn't penetrate the skull. There wasn't a mark on him no blood no skin no nothin. The bullets hit soft dirt and stayed right close to the surface. This is the kind of BS that cause some to believe that a 500 mag is the minimum for hogs. | |||
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The videography was so bad that I couldn't tell if the guy actually hit the hog or not, but my guess is that he MISSED. I have had to shoot a boar multiple times with a Blackhawk 357, but every bullet penetrated the skull. | |||
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Light weight bullets in a .44 mag. will cause results as shown in the video, especially 180 gr. hollow points in the .44 mag. We've chased hogs and javelina all over the ranch that were shot with 180 gr. hollow points from a .44 mag. They don't penetrate as well as a .22 LR. 110 gr. hollow points from a .357 will not normally penetrate a hogs skull either. velocity is like a new car, always losing value. BC is like diamonds, holding value forever. | |||
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He did hit the hog and the shots stunned it. How many pigs would just lay there so you could get 3 shots? There is no dirt on the bullet and shooting the ground will not leave a bullet on the surface. This is one of those great bullets guys believe in for big game, then shoot an elk or deer in the shoulder with it. It is one of those bullets that will blow a jug of water sky high and the nimrod imagines the effect on an animal will be the same thing. | |||
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If I don't get two holes I am unhappy. You can keep those expanding bullets for deer. I have had soft-points fail miserably on hogs and as such only use flat-point hardcast bullets. No, they aren't armored, but a soft, frangible bullet like the ones used in that video clip have no place on the hunt. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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We've had good luck shooting 240 jhp and jsp out of .44 mags on hogs. Although Whitworth's cast bullets would probably be better under adverse conditions. I'm certain that the cast bullets would give superior penetration, but can't be bought over the counter except in bevel base configuration which normally are not as accurate as flat based bullets. velocity is like a new car, always losing value. BC is like diamonds, holding value forever. | |||
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Gotta roll your own, swampshooter! There are plenty of good factory cast loads available from the likes of Federal, Buffalo Bore, Garret, Double Tap, etc. I don't mind JHPs on smaller hogs, but when they get big, no thanks. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Many years ago when I was a rookie, I watched a Sheriff's deputy shoot a 44 mag with some hollow point bullet (maybe a silvertip?, could even have been a 44 special) at a big empty plastic suitcase, the expanded bullet hit the deputy almost square in the chest. He had a little rip in his shirt and a tiny smudge on his vest. I suppose the bullet expanding and the suitcase plastic folding in were enough to absorb almost all of the energy. Scared the crap out of a bunch of us youngsters. j | |||
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Whitworth, I was referring to the fact that most hunters buy their ammo at Wal-Mart or some chain sporting goods store. Even local gun shops seldom carry specialty ammo such as Garret, etc. I agree with you 100%, but if these hunters are going to shoot ammo loaded by the big three in their .44 mags, at least make sure it is at least 240 gr. velocity is like a new car, always losing value. BC is like diamonds, holding value forever. | |||
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I don't know whether he hit it or not. Can't explain why the bullet wouldn't have buried itself in the dirt but that pig sure didn't react at all. As far as the pig "letting him" shoot at it...well the pig is clearly injured from a previous shot. The pig would have gotten up if it could when he approached it. I am bettin this guy 1) doesn't realize at that range you have to aim high and 2) he flinches. Those bullets may have gone into the dirt and hit a rocked and kicked up. I am just struggling with he hits the pig and there is no mark or real reaction. Plus, look at the kill shot versus the other shots. If he actually hit the pig why is all that dirt kicking up. Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Went back and re-watched the vid. First shot was a miss. You can see the pigs head is fairly clean before the shot and speckled with dirt just after. Second shot seems to blow the dirt off of the pig. Can't tell for sure where it went. I think flinch is the word of the day. | |||
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I realize what you are saying and agree. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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