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For those of you who don't know....Southern Monterey County is the pig hunting capital of California. I connected on a nice 200ish lb boar reddish with a white stripe last night and my buddy Roger Wong a 180ish lb solid black sow. Both were weighed on a scale. Only one pic that I will post later on that came out. Shots were at last light. We were hunting with Kyler Hamann as always a great time with lots of laughs and cutting up. Roger and I were both shooting 308s me 180 grn TSXs over 44.7 grns AA2520 (I get an honest 2650 with this loads and its an honest 1"-1 1/8 grouper). This is my one load for everything in the lower 48. Roger was using 168 grn TSXs over 4350...pics and more story to follow but just thought I would tease a little... Both pigs were taken in tall barley and shot off of sticks African style. We had two good stalks as each shot was probably only 75 yards if not less. Good wind and we just snuck up on em. Kyler kept stalking closer and closer and pretty soon I thought I was going to "affix bayonets". Although, Kyler has a very good point...so many problems just go away between 125 yds and 75 yds. Roger got his first, 1 shot bang flop (more on that in a minute)and since were in the middle of the barley field we just decided to wait and within about 15 minutes a group of another 4 pigs came in and I took my boar. Roger's animal was quartering too and his shot was a little far forward, as in...the head, and stopped under the skin behind the off side front leg. Like I said bang flop. Mine was also quartering and I hit a little farther back then I like but it tore up the on side lung, the liver, and the spleen. Good loud thwack and the pig hunkered down then bolted about 75 yards and exited the barley field down into a creek bottom and was TU in the bottom of the creek bed Roger's sow... Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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Mike- Congrats! I will anxiously await the details. Some day I hope to hunt a California piggie with Kyler. I have heard nothing but the highest praise for him. We've dealt on the classifieds a couple years back, but some day I am going to have to book a hunt with his outfit. And hey, that will give me a good excuse to get a new Contender barrel suited for those California hogs... Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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Bobby, You want to come out and hunt let me know. Fly into SFO, San Jose, or Oakland and I'll pick you up and chauffeur you down to Parkfield. Your 7mm Bulberry would be just fine. But hey, you need to bring one each of all your wildcats as one of the ranchers is a cartridge collector. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Looks like a good time was had by everyone except the porkers. Hence the saying, pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered. GWB | |||
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Mike- That's an incredibly generous offer. Once I get my health situation in better shape, I am going to have to take you up on that offer. As you know, I am fond of those Contenders. I guess I'd just have to decide which one I wanted to take along as lately I have been splitting time between the 20" 7mm Bullberry and the 26" 6.5 BB Improved (MGM barrel). Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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Thanks to Kyler I have a freezer and a half full of sausage.... Looks like a need to find something else to shoot for a while, maybe Elk, they may have less meet than two 200+ pounders! | |||
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Mike, You're too kind. I know I've sent you home WITHOUT pigs too many times over the years, but we got lucky and had a few cooperate yesterday. Both of you shot well and that makes things much easier. Good time hunting with you as always. Thanks, Kyler | |||
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Congrats to all!!! You got some real bruisers! Bob There is room for all of God's creatures....right next to the mashed potatoes. http://texaspredatorposse.ipbhost.com/ | |||
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