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Fellas caught this one alive south of Ft. Worth with dogs. 790 lbs and yes, it has nuts and is feral. Not a lost show pig: Big Ass Hog "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | ||
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Just by looking, I can tell you that is a pen-raised hog. GUARANTEED. Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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I knew these guys were frauds and just found the truth. Here it is: http://theflashtoday.com/2015/...-of-hoggate-hearing/ And to summarize: "Comanche County Justice of the Peace Johnny Conine held a hearing and did some investigating of his own this week, when Cuco Pacheco, a farmer living near De Leon, laid claim to the animal and produced photographs of ear markings. The nearly 800-pound swine is not easily moved around. Judge Conine recessed his court and traveled to Clyde, where the animal was being kept. His examination of the photos and the hog’s ear made the determination the animal belongs to Pacheco." Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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So have any of these giant hogs from the past 10 years actually been truly wild? Of the two monsters I've seen while hunting, I doubt the largest would have been over the 500 pound mark. I'd love to see some photos of large, truly wild hogs taken by the hunters on AR. | |||
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My two biggest 316 lbs Santa Maria, CA  352 lbs Argentina  I have also taken a 270 lbs sow, a 242 lb boar, and two that were between 210-215. I am very skeptical of truly wild pigs in the US above 450 lbs. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I'm not saying giant hogs don't exist, but I've yet to see one. Below are some of my biggest -- and none even break the 400 pound barrier. These 7-8-900 pound hogs in the news for the most part are simply farm-raised frauds. Around here, a big, fully mature boar will do well to go 240, and you don't often see them that big. The hogs in the photos I posted are exceptions to the rule and probably represent less than one percent of those I've killed. Truth be told, you can figure a good, solid, representative boar going 175-180 and a sow 135-160. THOSE weights more in-line with what you'll find in the wild.     Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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Have killed over 60 (stopped counting couple years ago). Was never able to weigh any of them but only killed one that I thought would go towards 250#. I did measure length and he was 79 inches from nose to tip of hind feet. Cutters are about 5 & 1/2 ".These were all free range ferals. Very seldom was any color represented, mostly just black under coat and brownish on the ends. Totally agree with Bobby T. | |||
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I gave a BMC to a friend, turned out to be a great hog dog. For the dog I asked to go hunting with him one time. Last stop of the night was a corn field that was full of water and could not be picked. Rows were covered in places by huge sun flowers. We jumped and managed to kill two pigs. On a certified scale the biggest weighed 400 pounds! It took 4 of us and a big atv to get them out of the field one at a time. That pig was tall, long and very thick. Very, very fat, most feral pigs can not lay in a shady corn field and eat like that one did. If they get thick life is easy and it is just not for a feral pig. | |||
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So sad. I wish one of these proved true. Largest I ever saw weighed was under 400. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I have killed one, maybe two hogs over the years that have tipped the scales over 300-pounds. They are a rare breed indeed. Got to live on a farm with regular meals to start packing on the pounds. I consider a 200-pound boar to be a big one. These "domestic" wild hog claims seem to crop up every couple of years. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I believe there is a YouTube video where a wildlife biologist explains how to tell a true feral from a pen raised hog turned loose. It has to do with the bottom teeth. I tried to find it and couldn't, but I know it is there because I watched it. I have killed my fair share of hogs like a lot of us, and although I have never weighed a boar, I do think I have shot maybe three that would have "scared" 300 lbs. And it took help to move them, as goes without saying... The biggest female I ever shot weighed 240 live weight, and she was barren. That is the only way she ever got to be that big. Like has been said, 200# is getting big for a true feral, and 300 lb. wild hogs are REALLY rare... they just run too much looking for food to get that big, in my estimation. | |||
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Typically I stay away from “ big pig” threads, but what the hey! You’ve heard the term “root hog or die”. I guess in places where there are crops and river bottoms, and abundant water supply, “feral” hogs are common over 300 lbs. However, in all my years of hunting in East Texas and the hill country, I’ve only weighed one hog over 300 lbs. that I killed or saw killed.  The hog on the left was shot by the guy in the picture. Platt is over 6’ tall. We weighed the critter at 315 lbs. The hog on the right was weighed at 275 lbs (before decapitation)  Here he is (with his head attached) shortly after the boy shot him.   Here is one I rigged two scales together to get the weight @ 275 lbs. Based on how hard he was to move I think he was heavier, but could not prove it. There have been others, but IIRC, out of the hundreds of hoglets I've perforated over the last 50+ years, I think it would be safe to say I can count on two hands the number that were over 250 lbs, and I'm talking actually weighed. A few more, just fer schitz n giggles...........      JAPPF, GWB | |||
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I've shot 5 over 300 pounds but none that were close to 400. My son killed a 280 pond sow (weighed) on my place a couple of years back. I saw a sow that was truly HUGE about 1 and half years ago, but by the time I called someone and asked if they wanted the meat, she and her pigs had gone back into the woods. Never saw her again. I'd be damn surprised if she didn't weigh 400 pounds or really close. While I don't weigh them unless they are really large, a 200 plus pound boar is big for around here, and a 150 plus pound sow is fairly large. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I think I would have ground checked that one.  | |||
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I don't blame you, but it wasn't quite that simple, I spotted her driving in my truck and she was about 350 yards away down a hillside. I backed off to see if the guy I usually give hogs to wanted her before I attempted either the shot or to get closer. By the time I got hold of him on a cell the sow was gone when I looked for her again. Yeah, I could probably have killed her, but it was August and I didn't want to waste a lot of meat. Nor did I want to go to the trouble of weighing her and then chunking her. I probably should have taken the shot, in retrospect, but it's my ranch and I shoot when it feels right. That didn't feel right to me. From experience I believe that shooting has very little, if any impact on hog numbers, so I don't normally shoot anymore unless I have a use for them, which is usually giving them away. Lots of people enjoy killing hogs more than I do these days, so I let some of them hunt the pigs. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Gator, that is some nice tuskies on the black boar. | |||
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My biggest boar is/was 319. His name is Mr. T and he lives on my wall. The next year a co-worker shot another boar from the same property near Medina, Tx that weighed 360. I didn't see that one in person but mine had a pretty normal fat to muscle ratio for a feral boar. His gristle plate had some very old BB shot imbedded in it and one 22 lr bullet. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Agree, most of the hype on weight are feral, and dead or live weight prior to field dressing. Those wild boar that have to work for a living and avoid the bullet don't get near so big Most of them in Europe are weighed after field dressing, so any weighing over 100kg (220 lbs) dressed are good sized and noticed. I've only shot a handful that dressed 100kg+. The majority of the European wild boar I've seen shot (several hundred) will dress between 30 and 70 kg. For the large female Sows, the object here is not to shoot them (for a variety of valid reasons), but rather shoot the piglets, perfect size being dressed 30kg. The meat is sold and eaten and is a game animal. The big Keilers shot are pretty much regulated to "sausage" -------- There are those who only reload so they can shoot, and then there are those who only shoot so they can reload. I belong to the first group. Dom --------- | |||
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Do luv them in the 50 to 120 lb range......  On those I usually don't even open them up. Just take the hinds, shoulders and loins. The hinds are perfect for smoking  or for boning out and putting in a crockpot for making pulled pork.  JAPPF, GWB | |||
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Dang it, Geedubya. That middle photo has me craving something better than what we are making for supper. That smoked pork looks GREAT!!! Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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Yeah, you can count on Geedubya posting photos that trigger salivation.......  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Of the several hundred hogs we have killed in south Texas. I have only seen about 6 that went over 250#. I have killed two (252#,255#) THE BIGGEST WAS 265#. In the harsh conditions of south Texas I can't see them getting much bigger. We have seen several hogs that look bigger, but until you get them on a scale I wouldn't bet they were over 300#. Living off the wild makes it hard to put that much weight on. The sheer volume of groceries makes it difficult, even on peanut lands of Comanche county (De Leon). Founding member of the 7MM STW club Member of the Texas Cull Hunters Association | |||
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I recon I have killed over 500 hogs. Those over 300 pounds are, in my experience, rare but they do occur. My largest was in 1991. I hammered it. It was too big to load. I gutted it. Gutted, it bottomed out 500 pound scales! It was my land. I didn't put it there . I believe it to be wild. Could it have escaped from somewhere? Yes, but I heard no such stories. Around 2008, we shot another that ,gutted ,bottomed out 350 pound scales. We cut a lot of hogs . We call them bar hogs. Bar hogs can and do grow to large size. It seems that ever year 2 or 3 are killed on one of my leases thst weight over 400. Just last August, I came across a bar hog that I recon was over 500 pounds. Trail cam pics were shown to several old crackers who are real killers, true experts in the outdoors in our area. Two of the three said over 500. The 3rd said approaching 500. Unfortunately, this monster escaped. I shot him right on the shoulder. I had a guy with me who saw it. There was a loud SMACK. He went about 3 steps before he was in the bush. Shoulder flopping. I cut down 2 smaller hogs. We looked and looked and never found the big bar hog nor a drop of blood. I was sick. He has not been seen again. This was a true giant. | |||
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