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| burris are good scopes as long as you don't need to warranty them |
| Posts: 13466 | Location: faribault mn | Registered: 16 November 2004 |
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| Today's Burris is a far cry from those American-built models produced after the management team from Redfield struck out on their own and formed a new company back in the 1970's or whenever. The original Burris product was somewhat long and heavy, but the engineering and quality control were pretty good.
The current Burris Fullfield is made in the Phillipines and is about what 98% of the other contract-produced, proprietary-branded scopes are. The glass is good (good optical glass is cheap these days), so the image is almost always acceptable or better. However, quality control is hit-and-miss, which means that you may have difficulties with moisture leakage, out-of-round power cam, inconsistent reticle adjustments, or a host of other potential problems.
Since U.S. customers seem to complaint regularly about Burris warranty service, as a foreigner you would be doubly disadvantaged it would seem. |
| Posts: 13280 | Location: Henly, TX, USA | Registered: 04 April 2001 |
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| As for Burris, I own since 4 years a Signature Select 3-12x44, that is giving me very good results; a friend of mine has the same and he is satisfied as well. They are slightly more expensive than the Fullfield II, though. |
| Posts: 1459 | Location: north-west Italy | Registered: 16 April 2002 |
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| Burris has as good a warranty as any manufacturer in my experience. I bought a 3x12x44 Sig Select and out of the box I could not turn the power adjustment. They sent me a call tag and fixed it and sent it back all within two weeks. I had another problem with it not holding point of aim so I sent it in and they fixed it, but the elevation adjustment screwed out of the turret. I called and they sent me a call tag, but didn't get it as soon as I thought I would. I called them and said that deer season started within a week. They sent me a brand new scope with warranty card (which I have for sale) and when the scope arrived I sent my old one back. I now have a Nightforce scope for my 338.
The bottom line is that I may have had a lemon or Burris scopes just don't like heavy kickers, but their warranty service was friendly, helpful and no questions asked. |
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| I have two FFII's, one on a Tikka 300 WSM that kicks like a mule. Has prolly 70 rds thru it and never shifts, or needs adjusting. Scope is clear and bright, chose it over a Leupold VX-I. I don't like the eyepiece turning when you adjust power but the function, quality and durability of the scope is very good. I had a Signature that I acquired in a trade that had a fleck of debris inside...very small but noticeable. Burris sent a call tag, I shipped it and it was returned clean in 15 days. I don't know why anybody bashes Burris cs. Maybe they don't get as much practice as Leupold. |
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| I like my fulfield II. I've never had any function issues to check how the warranty is. I can tell you that in the 4.5-14x42 version the AO is hard to turn especially in the cold. The optics are in my opinion excellent and adjustments are consistent and hold. They tend to be bulky. I can also say that I picked up a Pentax Pioneer 4.5-14 (which is the fullfield II) from Doug at CameralandNY. Pentax offers a lifetime warranty but a 19.95 shipping fee is charged. I see that you are in England so that deal won't really help you, though.
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| Posts: 749 | Location: Central Montana | Registered: 17 October 2005 |
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| I have been using a 3x9x40 Burris FF II for quite a few years now and I can tell you that it has been put thru the wringer. It sits on my beloved 257 wby MK V. No Complaints. Your milage may vary. 31 bertram |
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| I may be swimming against the current on this subject, but in MO the Fullfield II scopes leaving me with a headache. Their optical quality rivals the low end Tasco and Simmons scopes although I have heard they do stand up better under use. I would buy another Burris scope such as the Signature Select with magnification not exceeding 12X or BlackDiamond for all magnification as the BD has enough optical quality to give a clear and crisp sight picture at any magnification. Dare to compare a FF II against a Nikon Prostaff and you will see what the FF II should be. Again, just my opinion.
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| Posts: 1191 | Location: Ft. Morgan, CO | Registered: 15 April 2005 |
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| Nope, no more Burris scopes for me. I am tired of sending them back . You either end up with the black coating flecking off and sticking to the inside of the glass, cross hairs not straight, or some other quality control issue. It has taken me six Burris scopes to get one that wasn't messed up. Jon at the Optic Zone sorted through some and sent me one that was good.
My current issue? I bought a Black Diamond 8-32-50 with a 30mm tube for a long range set up. I opened the box and the cross hairs were not straight up and down. This is an $800 scope! I sent it back and gave them a couple weeks before I called about it. When I called 2 1/2 weeks later they had not even checked it into their system. I was still sitting on a cart, hanging out. They told me to call next week because it should go out to a repair facility then. Yeah, no more for me. Bushnell Elites or Nikons fro now on. |
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| quote: but the elevation adjustment screwed out of the turret.
Mine was the windage screw, no more Burris FF IIs for me!
Bob
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| Posts: 48 | Location: Missouri Ozarks | Registered: 16 February 2008 |
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| I have used 1/2 dozen of the 3x9 f11 scopes and have had no problem.. I have 4 more ready to go. Just need to decide which rifle gets them. I have found them to a very good scope for the money. |
| Posts: 304 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 12 February 2007 |
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| One of the comments I've had from customers is that the entire occular is turned to adjust the power. If you are a user of scope caps, the scope cap will turn with the change in power, which can be a problem. Bfly
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| Posts: 1195 | Location: Lake Nice, VA | Registered: 15 March 2005 |
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| I have a couple old Burris Signature scopes that are clear and sharp. That being said, I have a couple Burris compacts that are not as clear as some of the cheap Japanese or Chinese scopes. I once called Burris to complain about my Burris compacts edge distortion and the Burris Rep said that one could get some distortion - that the compacts were the low end of the line.
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| Posts: 169 | Location: Midwest | Registered: 30 August 2002 |
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| Why do people plague themselves? There is usually a pretty good reason why something is cheaper. Just as someone once stated...cheap hunts are the most expensive kind....well the same goes for anything else. You get exactly what you paid for. You don't get a Cadillac at Volkswagon prices. Nothing but Leupold for this camper. Are they always perfect...no. However, they are a damned sight better than anything else on the market. |
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| quote: However, they are a damned sight better than anything else on the market.
Can't argue with that logic |
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| I've had 3 or 4 of the Fullfield II 3-9x40s. They are okay scopes but for not much more money I think that the Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 is a much better scope. I've replaced all of my Burris's with the Bushnell Elites. |
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