I'm looking for a mid priced 30mm scope to put on my Sauer take down .375 H&H. I'll be trying it out on elk this fall and Cape Buffalo next year. I'm thinking of something like a 1.5-6 x36.
What mid range scope do you recommend?

What constitutes "mid price" for you??

This scope is exceptional value:
http://www.cameralandny.com/op...?page=swarovski57036

I looked for a demo Kahles for you, but found nothing better priced than the (brand new) Swaro above.

The Meoptas are supposedly also pretty good value:

http://www.eurooptic.com/Meopt...dor=XXME&parent=XXME

- mike

You have a first class gun - why ruin it with a second class scope?

Take a Swarovski Z6(i) 1-6x24 or 1,7-10x42 and You have a perfect combo!

http://www.titanium-gunworks.c...fernrohre/index.html

Hey Nevada

I am getting a 375 Ruger made and am also investigating scopes. Don't need it yet since it will be a few months before it comes on line.

After doing some reading there are 2 criterium that seem to be most important with the heavy kickers

Eye relief
Fixed power

I've never owned a fixed power scope but in almost everyone's opinion the fixed power is more durable and less susceptible to coming apart under heavy recoil. Here is a good thread.

Eye relief is also very important for the heavy kickers. An eye relief less than 3.5" can cause a problem and make the gun unpleasant to shoot. I would think any of the many scopes with 4" of eye relief would be in the more optimum range. The 2 scopes listed in mho's post both have an eye relief close to 3.2".

So far in order of preference for me

1. The IOR 6X42 which has a 4" eye relief and a whopping 29' field of view, Schott glass and is supposed to be outstanding. It can be had for $595 in several places.

2. The Zeiss 4x32 is a 1" scope but it has a 4" eye relief and a great FOV at 26.1' and is close to $300.00 if you can find one.

3. The IOR 4x32 is also a 1" scope but again it has the Schott glass and 29' FOV with an eye relief of 3.75"

If you are stuck on a variable then the Zeiss Conquest 1.8x5.5x38 should have great glass like all the Conquests and a 4" eye relief.

Thanks everone for your ideas. Mike, that's a great deal on the Swarovski. My "mid price" is $400-$800.
I'll be gone for a couple of days but keep your ideas coming. Can't wait to see what all of you think.

Randy

I thought the Nikon 30MM scopes were very impressive. Hendershot's Sporting Goods has a used 1.75x6 for $400. It is in great shape. Not sure if it is still there but worth a phone call.

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I thought the Nikon 30MM scopes were very impressive.

+1 samplelist.com has some used ones for $500 and some change. Even one or two with a 4A reticle.

LWD

You're not going to shake apart a swarovski PH on a 375 ruger, they're extremely stout scopes. The eye relief is more than adequate, plus they have a spring loaded rubber eyepiece. That's a great scope at a great price. I wouldn't handicap myself with a fixed power scope unless it were on a truly hard kicker like a 458 lott.

I put a Leupold Euro 30 2-7X33mm with a German #4 reticle on my 375 H&H. Have not shot anything but paper with it but it seems fine. If anyone has any experience with the Euro 30s please chime in. I would like to know before I take it on an adventure. I am starting to regret the large #4 reticle but I suppose when I am in my 60s I will be happy with it (you know-when the eyes are shot).

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Originally posted by Nevada Wapati:
I'm looking for a mid priced 30mm scope to put on my Sauer take down .375 H&H.

I don't mean to sound "elitist", but a fine, European rifle NEEDS fine, European glass.

Cameraland has some demo Swarovski PH 1.5-6 scopes that would "fit" great on your Sauer, but a they are about $100 out of your "mid price" range.

I bought a Zeiss 1.5-6x42. It was a mistake. I now own three plus a Schmidt & Bender with the same specs. For close work at 1.5 they are perfect. I do not feel the least bit inhibited about using them out to 300-350. If you are patient and work at it you can find a used one for <$800

Once again I want to thank everyone for their input. I like the sound of the Swarovksi PH but am concerned about the 3.15 eye relief. Does anyone have any experience with this scope on a .375 H&H?
Miles, let me know if you hear of a Zeiss 1.5-6 at that price.
I've eliminated the Leupold Euro, Burris, and Meopta. I may have to just shell out more cash than I first planned on.

Randy

The Swaro PH will have a telescoping eyepiece - which, to some extent, will alleviate the shorter eye relief.

Of course, you could also splash out on a Swaro Z6 like this one:

http://www.cameralandny.com/op...swarovskiz610x42rail

The Z6 has a longer eye relief - plus a bigger price tag...

It is often you can find second hand Zeiss scopes on eBay.

- mike

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Originally posted by Nevada Wapati:
Once again I want to thank everyone for their input. I like the sound of the Swarovksi PH but am concerned about the 3.15 eye relief. Does anyone have any experience with this scope on a .375 H&H?
Miles, let me know if you hear of a Zeiss 1.5-6 at that price.
I've eliminated the Leupold Euro, Burris, and Meopta. I may have to just shell out more cash than I first planned on.

Randy

i hve a pv-n (the same edition just european name) 3-12x50 on my .375hh - no doubt the best gear for that rifle because of the dampened eye piece

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Posted 27 July 2009 06:10 Hide Post
Once again I want to thank everyone for their input. I like the sound of the Swarovksi PH but am concerned about the 3.15 eye relief. Does anyone have any experience with this scope on a .375 H&H?
Miles, let me know if you hear of a Zeiss 1.5-6 at that price.
I've eliminated the Leupold Euro, Burris, and Meopta. I may have to just shell out more cash than I first planned on.

If I see another at thet price I will buy it for me. The last one I saw was on the classifieds here. It was a Swaro, same specs. Went for $575 I think and I am still kicking myself for not snatching it even though my S & B is sitting in the safe waiting for me to marry it up to a new gun.

I've eliminated the Leupold Euro, Burris, and Meopta. I may have to just shell out more cash than I first planned on.

Randy[/QUOTE]
It sounds like you know something about the Leuopold Euro scopes that I don't. Please speak up. Did I waste my money?

Rae 59,

No you probably didn't waste your money but I'm looking for a little more.
From what I've been able to learn about the Leupold Euro is that it's only a V-II model with a 30mm tube. The glass and guts are the same. Also not sure if it would hold up to a .375. Not sure if this is accurate or not but that is my reason.

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Originally posted by Nevada Wapati:
Rae 59,

No you probably didn't waste your money but I'm looking for a little more.
From what I've been able to learn about the Leupold Euro is that it's only a V-II model with a 30mm tube. The glass and guts are the same. Also not sure if it would hold up to a .375. Not sure if this is accurate or not but that is my reason.

That was a very tactful way of telling me I screwed up. Are you a attorney, politician or psycology 101 grad? LOL,LOL!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by scubapro:
You have a first class gun - why ruin it with a second class scope?

Take a Swarovski Z6(i) 1-6x24 or 1,7-10x42 and You have a perfect combo!

I totally agree on this one…..first class rifle like Sauer take down need first class European scope like S&B 1.5-6x42 would be perfect.

I just bought a S&B 1.25-4 Flash Dot #2 and received it today and am not overly impressed so far. I am probably not making a fair comparison, but I really like my Z6i 1.7-10 MUCH BETTER.

The glass is great on both, but the dot size on the S&B doesn't allow for very precise shooting.

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Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:
I just bought a S&B 1.25-4 Flash Dot #2 and received it today and am not overly impressed so far. I am probably not making a fair comparison, but I really like my Z6i 1.7-10 MUCH BETTER.

The glass is great on both, but the dot size on the S&B doesn't allow for very precise shooting.

what did i told you guys - but you called me a swaro junky... now, you say the same...

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Originally posted by Nevada Wapati:
Rae 59,

No you probably didn't waste your money but I'm looking for a little more.
From what I've been able to learn about the Leupold Euro is that it's only a V-II model with a 30mm tube. The glass and guts are the same. Also not sure if it would hold up to a .375. Not sure if this is accurate or not but that is my reason.

I just received an e-mail from Leupold on the Euro 30. You are right as far as the glass coating it is the same as the VX II and now the VX I. However Leupold says the inner tube on the Euro 30 has dual erecter springs to withstand high recoil and obviously has metric adjustment instead of MOA.

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Originally posted by scubapro:

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Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:
I just bought a S&B 1.25-4 Flash Dot #2 and received it today and am not overly impressed so far. I am probably not making a fair comparison, but I really like my Z6i 1.7-10 MUCH BETTER.

The glass is great on both, but the dot size on the S&B doesn't allow for very precise shooting.

what did i told you guys - but you called me a swaro junky... now, you say the same...

Klaus
I really wanted another Z6i, but I found a DEAL on the S&B and couldn't pass it up. As I said, I am probably not making a fair comparison. I would like to see a Z6i 1-6 and this S&B side by side to make a comparison, but there isn't anywhere close that deals in high end optics.

I've made my decision. I'm going with the Swarvoski Z6. Thanks for all your help and reminding me to buy the best glass I can afford.

Rae59 - Thanks for the information on the Leupold European. Guess I can't believe everything I hear.

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Originally posted by Nevada Wapati:
I've made my decision. I'm going with the Swarvoski Z6. Thanks for all your help and reminding me to buy the best glass I can afford.

You won't regret that decision!

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Originally posted by Nevada Wapati:
I've made my decision. I'm going with the Swarvoski Z6. Thanks for all your help and reminding me to buy the best glass I can afford.

Rae59 - Thanks for the information on the Leupold European. Guess I can't believe everything I hear.

perfect choice - please report when you have it...

I bought almost all Leupolds for the last 15 years, but in 2009, I have been buying IOR scopes.

I think that I can see more detail for a given magnification with IOR, at a reasonable price and weight.

We will see about reliability, but so far the repeatability and staying sighted in are excellent.

zeiss 2.5-10x42 diavari

weighs 15 oz