anyone have any positive or negative experiences with these scopes?

was looking at doing a 10 power on a long range rifle set up...

any positive or negative feed back would be appreciated...

No direct experience with them, but for that money I'd buy a used Leupold (or Nikon or Burris) variable or an old Leupold 12xAO and have it freshened up.

George

A lot of the guys on sniper hide like them. Claim they track well and glass is good for the money.

I picked up a 5-20 iluminated reticle (on a group buy) and mounted it. Glass seems on par with Nightforce at first glance. Haven't shot with it yet.

Which model are you looking at?

I have a the 20X model on my Rem 700HB in 308. Works just fine! I have no intention of dragging the rifle around Afganistan!
Peter.

BTT.

Seafire why don't you look at March scopes.
Here is a video link.
http://youtu.be/82hbMWbMdwA
The March hunting scopes have been a real positive revelation to me.
I hope this helps.

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Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
anyone have any positive or negative experiences with these scopes?

was looking at doing a 10 power on a long range rifle set up...

any positive or negative feed back would be appreciated...

Hi Seafire -

Before I answer, can you get God to tele-transport me back to the Applegate Trail? I sure do miss our part of good old Oh-ray-gun.

Anyway, on to "Super-Sniper" scopes...


I have two of them in 20X at the moment. I won't be buying any more.

They aren't bad scopes, just way too heavy and too clunky for my uses and my rifles. I also find the adjustments too "mushy" for my likes. The parallax adjustment on both mine seem to move on their own while the guns are in use...whether from recoil or what, I can't say.

I'll also say right up front that I won't be buying any more scopes with larger than 26 m/m tubes, either. Same "heavy and clunky" reasons.

The longer I shoot (its been almost 70 years of active shooting now), the better I like light, relatively low-powered, small-bodied scope tubes and bells IF I am going to use a scope at all.

I found out long ago that the expression "you can't hit what you can't see" is really not completely true and is often misleading. Having done a lot of target competition out to 1,200 yards with iron sights, I know I can hit an invisible "X" ring far, far, beyond where I can see it even with the best of scopes. One has to be able to see an aiming point through his iron sights, but need not see what he intends to hit.

That, of course, is whole 'nother subject so I won't continue in that vein on this thread.

There are a number of current and older scopes which I much prefer for field use on good rifles to find and kill things.

Anyway, I found the super-sniper scopes to be all right for a very limited set of circumstances, but I would not recommend them for any form of hunting either animals or humans which I have participated in.

YMMV

Could not agree more with Alberta Canuck. I also have shot competetion for nearly 70 years and same experience as mentioned regarding long range shooting w/ "irons." Did own one of the mentioned scopes several years ago and found it to be "useable" at best. Am not a fan of scopes for long range target shooting even though own Leupolds, Unertl's, etc., but for the money spent and your intended purpose find the Weaver T series to be best value out there.
If the ranges are 1000yds, the Weaver will require you to use elevated base(long range base of say, 20moa)for you run out of elevation adj.w/ 308 performance level of cartridge. Windage and elevation "clicks" are positive and accurate and are provided w/ sun shade, two sets of drums for W&E plus screw in lens caps.
If shooting prone/sling/mat would advise no more than 24x for it takes a very "hard holder" to manage pulse beat, mirage, etc. w/ greater power. Supported fire, F Class, where rifle is solidly supported can afford use of great deal more magnification. 16x for me is ideal. Just a suggestion.

I used a 20x for a long time and it tracked perfectly, and had 130+ MOA of adjustment. Glass wasn't outstanding, but wasn't awful...

I have the 5-20x50 HD SS and it is outstanding for the price. Glass is better than Nightforce, and everything else is comparable. Don't know if it is as tough, but for the price it seems to be a great buy so far. No issues with either scope, ever.

These are definitely not scopes that are meant to be light, and if you want that kind of scope, then long range shooting usually isn't in the same sentence.

For the same money you could buy a minty 10X Unertl Vulture. Yup it's 40 years old and 10 times as good. "Ask the Marines."

put a 20x ss on a 40x 308 and actually improved my shooting vs. my 36x leupold, one thing i would like to mention is i do not shoot as good as i did when i was 30,I'm 50 now, old age is setting in, cant imagine what its going to be like in 30 more years, I have two ss and could not be happier, i thoght the bausch and lomb 36 br was better than the leupold 36 br. my two cents.