How many times have you bought a rifle scope, only to figure out that after you spent $1-10000 that is was a complete piece of junk?

I have had really good luck with: Swarovski, Ziess, Schmidt Bender, Pentax, Optolyth, Burris, Nikon, and Leica.

I have bad luck with US Optics, Nightforce, Super Sniper, Tasco, and Millett.

Everytime I don't buy quality it cost me money.

Sometimes you get what you pay for.Sometimes you don`t.I have a Swarovski that will not adjust correctly..About 1" per click,or not at all.I will send it in for repairs as they are top notch about fixing their product.Just a PIA for a high end scope.

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Originally posted by D99:
How many times have you bought a rifle scope, only to figure out that after you spent $1-10000 that is was a complete piece of junk?

I have had really good luck with: Swarovski, Ziess, Schmidt Bender, Pentax, Optolyth, Burris, Nikon, and Leica.

I have bad luck with US Optics, Nightforce, Super Sniper, Tasco, and Millett.

Everytime I don't buy quality it cost me money.

I'm surprised you have had problems with Nightforce and US Optics. What issues did you have?

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Originally posted by D99:
How many times have you bought a rifle scope, only to figure out that after you spent $1-10000 that is was a complete piece of junk?

I have had really good luck with: Swarovski, Ziess, Schmidt Bender, Pentax, Optolyth, Burris, Nikon, and Leica.

I have bad luck with US Optics, Nightforce, Super Sniper, Tasco, and Millett.

Everytime I don't buy quality it cost me money.

I have a Nightforce with which the first few shots after a windage or elevation change group wider than after the scope has settled in after a few shots.

I swore off Tasco scopes several years ago so no surprise there but what problems did you have with US Optics; I'd like to know since I've been considering purchasing one.

Also, no mention pro or con on Leupold? Have you never owned a Leupold scope?

At the tender outset of my shooting career, I bought a Tasco (forget the model) scope for my .223 Rem. The scope was nice and cheap, and promised considerable savings of $$$. The gun never shot until I mounted a Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x50, and it was uphill from there. The Tasco now lives in my basement and is used to assess whether rings are mounted straight. Saving money on optics is like walking a tightrope, it may work, but often it doesn't.

Funnily, I bought a Nikon (good model - forget the name, was it Monarch?). I never had any luck with that scope, even though I tried it on 3 different rifles. Higher end Nikons are otherwise not known for problems.

- mike

I have had Leupolds, they are ok. I think Burris and Nikon are better glass for less money.

American Ziess Conquest line is leaps above similarly priced Leupolds.

As for problems with US Optics and Nightforce, they just come apart on our work guns. They are not US military tough. And when you compare the $$$ for quality Schmidt wins every time.

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Originally posted by D99:

As for problems with US Optics and Nightforce, they just come apart on our work guns. They are not US military tough. And when you compare the $$$ for quality Schmidt wins every time.

I would be interested to know what their warranty departments had to say.

I own a Nightforce and after I had a conversation with the president of the company, I am sure I will buy another one. They stand behind their products. If they are not US Military tough, I wonder why the US Military uses them.

It's not a matter of Warranty issues. Everyone will fix it. But when you send back a huge part of the items you receive for Warranty issues it's a pain in the ass.

Though Fedex and DHL ship from the warzone.

We have never had an issue with an Aimpoint sight and we have about 160 of them on our M-4s.

So, what exactly do you do to your scopes to make them break?

Could you give a specific example of a Nightforce coming apart?

Couple thousand rounds on a M14 makes em hurt pretty bad.

I had switched over to Burris years ago. Liked their product and it was made in my state. Come to find out that Beretta has bought Burris. Last 2 scopes; made in phlippines.Another step to the world economy . Back to Leupold!

I've personally used exclusively US Optics for the last 20 years, and had exactly one problem, a failed dimmer switch which was instantly repaired for one way shipping charge only. My experience is that they are an Engineering company as well. A couple of the early T-Pals reportedly had problems with too light a section on the objective interface. As soon as this was reported, changes were made in the design. Here below is a scope with new design and it's just fine!




Many of my shooting friends use NF, which they seem to really like.




Below is SN3 1.8-10x40 Compact EREK ERGO on cheap semi auto rifle. This may be the perfect police sniper scope. Reticle and knobs in metric. 95 clicks at .2 Mil per clicks on elevation knob.



Regardless of your personal preferences, others beside Europeans are capable of making world class optics.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by D99:
I have had Leupolds, they are ok. I think Burris and Nikon are better glass for less money.[QUOTE]

Yes and no....I have many VX II and VX III scopes and three Nikon Monarchs.

The Nikons have very good glass, easy to adjust finger click turrets and the variable ring moves easily....
BUT the Nikons don't come close to having the very long eye relief that the Leupolds VX II and VX III have.

Side by side test by me show almost 2” more on the same power settings.

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Originally posted by D99:
How many times have you bought a rifle scope, only to figure out that after you spent $1-10000 that is was a complete piece of junk?

I have had really good luck with: Swarovski, Ziess, Schmidt Bender, Pentax, Optolyth, Burris, Nikon, and Leica.

I have bad luck with US Optics, Nightforce, Super Sniper, Tasco, and Millett.

Everytime I don't buy quality it cost me money.

Personally, I have never had a "true" piece of junk scope, except for maybe a El Paso Weaver 2.5-7 Widefield. It was purchased about 1 year before Weaver went out of business. I am pretty sure they were cutting corners/cost before they closed the doors.

I will say I have some scopes that I am not 100% satisfied with for the money and era they come from. But I do not consider them junk as they are quite usable and are being used.

I must say that my Zeiss Conquest and any Leupold that I have are always ready when I am.
My lesser favorites are the Burris Fullfields and Weaver Grand Slams. No matter how much I focus or adjust on the latter they just never seem to be ready when I want to shoot - not like the Zeiss/Leupolds. They don't have the same quality glass either. But I didn't pay as much for them either. I have compared the Burris Fullfield II with a Burris Signature and there was not that much difference compared to the money spent. But Again, I would not consider any of them junk.

I have 4 or 5 of the old El Paso Weavers and considering their age and the technology of the day, they are quite good scopes except the fore-mentioned 2.5-7 widefield. I had to send it to Meade several times for condensation problems.

Yep,found that out the hard way with the Simmons Whitetail Expedition,two round trips=$40.00.They "Upgraded" me to an Aetec after the Whitetail Expedion was discontinued(I wonder why?) Another two round trips for the Aetec=$40.00 again,so add $80.00 to the original price tag of $130.00=$210.00,not to mention the flustration and spent ammo,so easily add another $100.00,so now your looking at over $300.00 invested in a piece of crap.My 7mag just destroyed those scopes.Today it sits on top a 6mm and so far it's OK.Lesson learned,you get what you pay for.

You have to kind of match the scope to the cartridge. I would never put a "junky" scope on a heavey recoiler.

I'm a poor man......I can only afford to buy the best.
Rick

Have you still not had a problem with your aim points not saying you’re wrong but I was very surprised with this statement just because I replace a lot of aim points the new gen is a lot better but still have some problems. I’m not trying to argue just don’t want people on this forum to go out and buy aim points because they think there tuff and then find out later that there are some faults in the design.