*Leupold VX-1 3-9x40
*Bushnell Legend 3-9x40

which is the better scope, regarding ruggedness and optical quality?(i will be using it on a .300)
the Leupold costs 2200, and the Bushnell 2000.

The Leupold will have better optics and durability. The Bushnell will have 'click' adjustments where the Leupold will not. I have a pair of Vx-1's and a Bushnell Legend.

The best buy out there now is the 3-9 4200 Bushnell for $250 or so....

Leupold by far.

Leupold's customer service would make my decision. They are top notch! It took me 6 weeks to get a replacement cap to a turrent from bushnell. I got a repair in from Leupold on a spotting scope in a week!

Go with Leupold!

Ed

Leupold it is, i wont be using more than one load anyway



the Bushnell 4200 is waaaaaaay over budget, it costs 2,5 VX-1's

Bad move. Way too many scopes outperform leup(old) scopes these days.

Do a little more investigating by searching some excellent posts on here about the best scope for the $$$. leup(old) is way down on the list.

if you have any suggestions, please tell

Small fish,

Tell me what is better than a Leupold VXIII for the money.

I have had a few scopes in my life, Zeiss, Swaro, AG Nickel, US optics, Nightforce, Unertl, Fecker,Bushnell, Nikon, and Trijicon.

You have to spend a bunch of extra coin, to get a scope better than a VX III, and you still will not get the service that leupold provides.

Ed

505ED: i appreciate your reply, i have also heard that the Leupold is the most rugged scope out there.
but please keep this post at a VX-1 level

thanks.

This may be beyond the scope of the discussion but have you considered something with a faxed magnification rather than a variable?

I picked up a 2nd hand S&B 8X56 for very little money. Top notch glass on my rifle for less than most low end variables plus less to fiddle with and less to go wrong. It might not suit you but hopefully it gives you something to think about.

I checked this site just to get an idea of 2nd hand prices here in the UK and there are quite a few fixed magnification scopes at reasonable money:

http://www.rmacleod.co.uk/shoptics.htm

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Originally posted by 505ED:
Small fish,

Tell me what is better than a Leupold VXIII for the money.

I have had a few scopes in my life, Zeiss, Swaro, AG Nickel, US optics, Nightforce, Unertl, Fecker,Bushnell, Nikon, and Trijicon.

You have to spend a bunch of extra coin, to get a scope better than a VX III, and you still will not get the service that leupold provides.

Ed

leupold only has good customer service because they are well practised at it! seems like they are always breaking down...

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Originally posted by Steffen-9.3:
*Leupold VX-1 3-9x40
*Bushnell Legend 3-9x40

which is the better scope, regarding ruggedness and optical quality?(i will be using it on a .300)
the Leupold costs 2200, and the Bushnell 2000.

Sorry Steffen-9.3 my bad reading.

For best preformance go with Pentax gameseeker or Nikon prostaff, or Leupold VXI for service glass quality is not as good.

Sorry I need to read better!

There are alot of scopes in the 3X9 range, the most popular and usually the best pricing as competition is more than other ranges. The Leupold VX1 does not have the best glass for the money IMHO. Try Sightron SII, Nikon Monarch, or Burris FFII. These in the US are about the same money and have better glass. My problem with the Bushnell is the lack of eye relief. On a non magnum no big deal, but on a kicker you may regret the scope.

The Leupold VX-I is a time-tested design that rarely suffers a failure from any source -- leakage, recoil, etc. It will have the greatest latitude of eye relief of any of the scopes to which you might compare it. It will also be lighter in weight and a bit more compact than its other "full sized" competitors.

Some of its competitors use optical coatings that intensify (distort) certain colors so that they fool people into believing that they are "brighter" when gazing through them in the store. Some people like this color distortion; I prefer the colors to more closely match their unfiltered appearance. (By the way, Leupold appears to use color distortion -- known as filtering -- in some of its higher-priced lines in order to appeal to those who prefer it.)

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
The Leupold VX-I is a time-tested design that rarely suffers a failure from any source -- leakage, recoil, etc. It will have the greatest latitude of eye relief of any of the scopes to which you might compare it. It will also be lighter in weight and a bit more compact than its other "full sized" competitors.

Some of its competitors use optical coatings that intensify (distort) certain colors so that they fool people into believing that they are "brighter" when gazing through them in the store. Some people like this color distortion; I prefer the colors to more closely match their unfiltered appearance. (By the way, Leupold appears to use color distortion -- known as filtering -- in some of its higher-priced lines in order to appeal to those who prefer it.)

Spin it the way you'd like to hear it yourself,but spin is SPIN. You are really killing me with this shit (spin).

The leup(old) VX-I is probably the bread and butter for the repair guys at the busy factory. Those guys are the busiest repair guys out there,hands down.

I've got a Luepie VX1 2-7 on my .223 NEF Handi-Rifle truck gun.

Haven't had a problem with this one so far....

I got it at Bass Pro's catalog return outlet. It was marked $122 but rang up at the register at $75. Got it home and mounted it and the crosshairs wouldn't move. Boxed it up and sent it to Luepold and they sent me a new one in about two weeks.

Great little scope - for $75.

I wouldn't pay more than about $150 for one, any more than that and there are definatly better scopes out there.

In the last three years or so I've picked up six used VXIIs for $200 to $225 at my favorite pawn shop.

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Originally posted by small fish:
The leup(old) VX-I is probably the bread and butter for the repair guys at the busy factory. Those guys are the busiest repair guys out there,hands down.

Not only does Smallfish possess a clearly superior intellect, he is also privy to the work-order stats for the Leupold service shop. Little would those of us of average intelligence have guessed how cleverly Leupold has designed their VX-I to generate such a large volume of free repairs. Not only does Leupold get to sell the VX-I cheaper, the VX-I is generating huge profits for Leupold in free repairs alone! How insidious. Thanks for shining a light on this scam for us, Smallfish! No wonder Leupold is so profitable! But if Leupold thinks they're going to continue to sell an unsuspecting public scopes on the cheap THEN make more big bucks off of us through thousands of free repairs, they've got another think coming!

Leupold warranty is lifetime, transferable, and unconditional. That's the way they run the show.

I have a Leupold VX I 4x I purchased USED to mount on a .458 Win. Mag. Leupold covers it without question. No issues with the scope despite the hammering it takes from the recoil.

I have a VX II which came on a used Weatherby. The adjustment cap was dented. Leupold sent me SIX -- two gloss, two flat black, and two silver "So you can mix & match." They included some accessories, lens cloth, scope bag . . . on a used scope.

That's the way they run the show.

how about a VX-2, 3-9x40 for allround work?

i heard some guys speak highly of it on a norwegian forum.
its on sale now and if i take it with the duplex reticle, it costs only 7$ more than the VX-1

i will appreciate quick replies, since i don't know how long the offer will last.

I suppose it depends on their charge on the vx-1. If normal, the vx-11 would be a bargain.

Just make sure it's not actually an old VARI-X 11, which is just a vx-1.
And that it's a kosher Leupold.

The VX-II is essentially the same scope as the VX-I except for "click" stop windage and elevation adjustments. Leupold advertises superior lens coatings on the VX-II internal lenses for slightly improved light transmission as opposed to the VX-I, however, I doubt any real difference exists.

Either model is essentially the same physical design as the time-tested Vari-X II. They are about as dependable as variable scopes get.

The II usually sells for around $80 US more than the I, so if you can buy it for virtually the same price, by all means do so.

I have several Vari-X II's, VX-I's, and VX-II's. I find no difference in their function or usefulness. If you have an application which involves frequent reticle adjustments (as with shooting two different loads which consistently print to different points of impact) the click adjustments are perhaps more easily returned to a pre-determined zero.

ok, i've heard that the VX-2 should be somewhat better in poor light(not good, but better)i won't bother buying something expensive, since i'm planning to shoot one deer per year.

i'm not picky, in broad daylight a Bushnell Sportsman is good enough for me.