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I am in the market for a new scope to go on my new .264 Winchester Magnum.

My budget is $1000.

I have been thinking:
Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14 X44,
Swarowovski Z-3 4-12 X50,
Leupold ?????

What am I missing in this universe?

Thanks in advance.


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Posts: 1323 | Location: San Antonio, Texas | Registered: 04 March 2003Reply With Quote
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What game will you be hunting?

At what distances do you expect to be shooting?

Do you want a heavy scope or a lighter scope?

George


 
Posts: 14623 | Location: San Antonio, TX | Registered: 22 May 2001Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
What game will you be hunting?

At what distances do you expect to be shooting?

Do you want a heavy scope or a lighter scope?

George



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Posts: 2321 | Location: Greater Nashville, TN | Registered: 23 June 2006Reply With Quote
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Thank you for your comments.

Primary hunting obtectives for the rifle are White Tail Deer, Desert Mule Deer, and Pronghorn Antelope. I wouldn't hesitate popping an Elk with 140 Grain Nosler Partition.

Wide open, long distance shooting. To maximize performance from .264 Winchester it has a #3 Krieger 26 inch barrel. Asside from that, the rifle has a very slim and trim stock and probably has the best balance of any rifle I own. I have several Conquests and like them. I own and love my Leupold scopes as well.

I was kind-of leaning towards a Swarovski, just to have one. But, I am not totally sold on 50mm objective.


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Posts: 1323 | Location: San Antonio, Texas | Registered: 04 March 2003Reply With Quote
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A 3.5x-10x / 3x-12x / 4.5x-14x / 5x-15x would probably be ideal for open country.

I have scopes by Leupold, Zeiss, Swarovski, Burris, Nikon, Pentax and Trijicon. I have also owned Nightforce, Kahles, Nickel, et al.

The Zeiss with T* coatings was the brightest scope I've ever looked through, but the scope was heavy (as was the NightForce, which was not as bright as the Zeiss).

The Leupold Vari-X III/VX3 4.5x-14x 40mm with side adjustment and Zeiss 4.5x-14x 44mm would be my picks, as I do not like 50mm objectives on a rifle I am going to carry around (it would be fine if hunting from a blind or stand).

George


 
Posts: 14623 | Location: San Antonio, TX | Registered: 22 May 2001Reply With Quote
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I have the Swar unit made prior to the Z3. Has a 1" tube 4 X 12 x 50 on a favorite 270. It is about as bright as it gets and weighs about 12 oz. (pretty light).
I have heard they are not as sturdy as the Zeiss or Leupold but mine has stood the test of time for + 5 years with no issues.
 
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I agree with George on this. A 50mm objective is not needed for 95% of hunting and is only a real benefit when hunting at night, as is common in Europe. I am a committed Leupold fan. Everytime I decide to try another brand I am disappointed (Burris, Nikon, Vortex, etc.) and end up buying a Leupold to replace them.

Take a look at the new Leupold VX-R. I just got one and am impressed. VX-III optics with an illuminated reticle, a 30mm tube and CDS available. And a couple hundred less than your price point.

German riflescopes are over rated, but their binos are the best available. stir


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Definitely Zeiss Conquest or Swarovski ! Leupold doesn’t come close to the other two brands in optical quality. Personally I’ve got a Conquests 4.5-14x44....great scope for the $
 
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I would recommend a Leupold 2-7X Ultralightweight variable to you. It is a nice, light, handy scope which will not unbalance your rifle to the degree larger, heavier scopes will.

At 7X it also has plenty of magnification for hunting American "big" game. An animal at 700 yards will appear as easy to aim at as an animal is with iron sights at 100 yards. If one can't see and hit an animal's vital shoulder/chest area with iron sights at 100 yards, then maybe one might want to consider golf instead....

Fifty and sixty years ago I owned Zeiss, Ross, Meopta, Kahles and other "premium" European scopes. I also owned Weavers, Bushnells, and others priced in between.

I'm a slow learner, but I learned. Balance and moderation is the secret in all things.

A hunting scope doesn't have to double as a microscope. It needs "good enough" lenses and "good enough" everything else, combined with a less than onerous weight, less than onerous price, a good warranty, good reliability, and so on.

I have found over many, many years of both shooting competition and shooting game that when you balance all those things out, you can't substantially better the tried and true established local brands for local hunting purposes.

And being local, they are relatively easy to keep performing just fine.


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I've been very happy with the swaros I have, and infact have another Z3 3-10x42 coming. I'm also of the thought the 42mm is likely plenty of Obj.
 
Posts: 549 | Location: n.e.Mn | Registered: 14 October 2006Reply With Quote
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Grab the Leica demo that is listed by Doug from Camera Land in he classifieds. It is offered for $999.00 and is a smokin deal.
 
Posts: 3073 | Location: Pittsburgh, PA | Registered: 11 November 2004Reply With Quote
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Just ordered the Z3 4-12x50 for the 6mm.

Best of luck with your decision.


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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
I would recommend a Leupold 2-7X Ultralightweight variable to you. It is a nice, light, handy scope which will not unbalance your rifle to the degree larger, heavier scopes will.

At 7X it also has plenty of magnification for hunting American "big" game. An animal at 700 yards will appear as easy to aim at as an animal is with iron sights at 100 yards. If one can't see and hit an animal's vital shoulder/chest area with iron sights at 100 yards, then maybe one might want to consider golf instead....

Fifty and sixty years ago I owned Zeiss, Ross, Meopta, Kahles and other "premium" European scopes. I also owned Weavers, Bushnells, and others priced in between.

I'm a slow learner, but I learned. Balance and moderation is the secret in all things.

A hunting scope doesn't have to double as a microscope. It needs "good enough" lenses and "good enough" everything else, combined with a less than onerous weight, less than onerous price, a good warranty, good reliability, and so on.

I have found over many, many years of both shooting competition and shooting game that when you balance all those things out, you can't substantially better the tried and true established local brands for local hunting purposes.

And being local, they are relatively easy to keep performing just fine.



I would suggest 3 Nikon Monarch scopes for the price of a euro. But I am a trouble maker.
 
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Doug at Cameraland also has the higher-magnification Zeiss Conquests available as Demos, now at an additional 10% off, bringing them in the High $00-low $700 range, depending on reticle.
 
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