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After hearing a rumor that the Swarovski AV and several other Swarovski scopes,including the new Z6 scopes were not actually made in Austria,I e-mailed Swarovski to deny or confirm the rumor.Below is their reply.
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That's it. I'm only buying S&B from now on....  Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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My problem is not with them being assembled in the USA,it it with the scopes having "made in Austria" on them. | |||
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Stubble, Thanks for the posting. I wasn't aware of what she writes... I have two AV's and a PF 6x42, plus a pair of 7x42 SLC Binox. Wonder where the PF and Binox are assembled? Guess I can call them and inquire. Good info. Don | |||
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OK, if that's the case, why do the prices fluctuate with the Euro? It doesn't really change how I feel about the scopes (good), and I'm actually glad a foreign company is giving business TO the US. _____________________________________________________ No safe queens! | |||
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The persons name,personal e-mail and phone number are posted.Why don't you ask her?
So false advertising doesn't bother you at all? | |||
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The components are made in Europe. Don | |||
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They (S&B) are build in Hungary...  Go and buy European Swarovskis and You get the highest quality you can buy... | |||
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The S&B Zenith, PM II and Precision Hunter models are all made in Germany. According to my knowledge only the Classic model is made in Hungary  | |||
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I guess the ultimate question you have to ask yourself about a scope assembled in the USA from european parts is: "Does it work (the way I want it too)". | |||
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My comment was in jest. However, to my knowledge, only certain fixed power S&B's are made in Hungary and they are so marked. Klassic and all other variables are made in Germany I believe. If there is a difference in quality between S&B and Swarovski, I can't see it. There may be certain differences in style. I have both, and I am delighted with both. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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The ultimate question as I see it,is,do I want to support a company that makes it a practice to mislead customers about their products? | |||
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S&B has much other problems as well... The most important thing is at least, that they don´t have that crisp clear and brilliant image a "European Swarovski" will give You... side light problems, long service times and problems with dust inside the scope are just some of the S&B problem as well... | |||
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Prices fluctuate with the Euro because all of the components come from Europe. They are assembled here because it allows for lower import duties than for a finished product. | |||
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I just received another e-mail from Swarovski.Apparently the Swarovski scopes sold in Canada,are "Made in Austria".
I guess that is something for Canadians to think about before ordering a Swarovski scope from the USA. | |||
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Yes I do, they make a great product I use the AV over the PH because they have better eye relief plus a big huge 30 MM scope is pretty ugly to me. I remember seeing ads that the AV was assembled in America and if you call them they will freely tell you they are assebled in America with Austrian parts. My understanding is they come almost fully assembled, They did this to get around the import taxes. Not misleading at all if you just pick up the phone and call and ask. Besides is everything is made in austria, they are correct to say Made in Austria. You can get a lable maker and put Assembled in America if that makes you feel better. Maybe you should buy one of thoose quality Made in Canada Scopes! | |||
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I thought the whole point of labeling goods was so that you don't have to make phone calls to find out where they are made.  | |||
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Again it is made in Austria, Sorry do not see the problem | |||
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...so I guess they must work ok ..... | |||
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No problem in Canada,but the Swarovski AV scopes that I looked at in the Post Falls Cabela's store wore the same "Made in Austria" label,and according to Swarovski, they were assembled in the USA. | |||
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So I guess that in Australia,false advertising means nothing.Is that because of how Australia was settled by the British?  | |||
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Now I see why he is haveing a problem understanding the differance between made and assembled, Stubblejumper is really Homer Simpson! | |||
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 Cheers, Dave. Aut Inveniam Viam aut Faciam. | |||
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Perhaps you should look up the definitions of "make". http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/make From that link
http://www.yourdictionary.com/make From that link.
http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&ma...make&matchtype=exact From that link,
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You need to get laid, or find a hobby | |||
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It that the best that you can do after being proven wrong?  | |||
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It's debatable where they are made since they are partially made in Austria and partially made in the United States. But the main reason for the "made it Austria" sticker is that some consumers actually believe it is higher quality than if it said "made in USA". That is not my opinion. | |||
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Actually quality control in many high tech manufacturing processes is quite good in the USA and with the $ vs Euro exchange rate what it is, you may see more and more products built here by European manufacturers to include VW, BMW, and now Swarovski. I do believe that certain Zeiss (or it may have been Leica) products have been assembled by Leupold for a number of years. Much of the glass in optics, even that "made in Europe" is glass made in Europe, ground in Asia, and finished in Europe. Want to talk about a world economy! I am glad that US workers are getting the work and that their quality is being recognized. Kudude | |||
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