Ok so I have got a hold of a 9.3x62 and found a 4x habitcht Swarovski scope which I bought the other day, What are peoples favourite scopes for running boar and deer and may be used on the hill etc??

When I am out in the open field i use a SuB 3-12X42 with No1 Reticle.
In the forrest i Switch over to Aimpoint or open express style sigths all depending on the weather.

Regards StenGun

On the continent where hunting for driven game is very popular, low magnification scopes such as 1.1-4 or 1.5-6 are very popular. Dot sights, Aimpoints and the like are also very popular, but are not as versatile as a scope.

I personally rarely go below a magnification of 2x, and have hunted driven game with a 2.5-10 on multiple occasions.

If running game is a priority as well as shots in open country, I'd choose either a 1.5-6x42 or something like a 2.5-10x50 (Zeiss).

- mike

Meopta makes a 1-4X20mm that is a true 1 power with no distortion. It is made to shoot with both eyes open and have a perfect sight picture much like the Aimpoint. I have one and it is fantastic for what you are describing. I like the versitility of having a scope with some power if a distance shot is required.

Perry

what I find leathal on running game is a good ole red dot scope, bushnell makes a model with 4 reticles and my favorite is the 65MOA circle with a 3 moa dot in the middle. only problem is I am not sure how well these scopes hold up, I sure wish another company would make the same thing in a more heavy duty package, I did make a 193 yd shot with my smoke pole with one last year, although this deer was not running, the other 2 deer I have shot with one have been moving and one was nearly at full speed, both eyes open I had a good view when the bullet wacked that mulie and it went down like it was hit by lightning

fox.....

You've gotten some pretty sage advice from everyone already.

The old (now out of the product line except for Zeiss who JUST re-introduced a 4x32 Conquest) 4x32's from Zeiss, Swaro & S&B were in my opinion top-notch scopes, bar-none.

If I had one of these scopes on a 9.3x62 I wouldn't hesitate at shooting anything; running or standing. Personally, I consider your set-up a really good one for both Driven Game & for out on the Hill!

Having said that when I elected to build a 9.3x62 exclusively for Continetal Driven Boar & Red Deer; I opted for (like StenGun) EAW Pivot mounts for the flexibility of switching back & forth from a Millet Red Dot for stalking and Driven Game to a Zeiss 8x56 for night-time High Seat Piggie Potting, so I've got both and consider this a fantasticly flexible arrangement.

I also have an AimPoint 2x Red Dot on a .375H&H Blaser barrel that has given me great results at Bushveld hunting distances (point blank to @ 100 meters) in Africa and it'll group into well under 2" at 100 meters as sighted-in.

The Millet has taken the trashing from my 9.3x62 without any hickups. Couldn't speak for the Bushnell but figure if folks are putting them on revolvers, pistols, shotguns & rifles they ought to be study enough.

mho's advice is good and 1.5-6x42's are popular here also.

The trouble with the larger magnification European scopes is that due to the lens arrangements when you go to a high magnification, say 1.5-6, 2.5-10, 3-12 or 4-12 and an illunimated recticle is that when you turn the magnification down for running shots the illuminated rectile portion becomes so small that you can hardley see it; negating the potential advantage.

Drive hunting with hounds is our most popular hunting mode. I use 2 rifles :
- fair weather :
FN-Browning o/u 9,3x74R + Swarovski 1,25-4x24 (circle dot reticle)

- foul weather :
Blaser R93, 9,3x62 + Swarovski 1,25-4x24 (illuminated reticle 4)



Except for (unusual) long shots, I select 2x.

I used a Swarovski 1.5-6x42mm with the same reticle as Andre on my 9.53 Lazzeroni Hellcat in Africa--- I beleive the reticle is called the Battue.

Shot a warthog which came out of a hole in the ground almost at my feet ------ one shot thru the top of the shoulders at about 10-15 yards knocked him to his nose.

Zebra running (left-to-right) at about 100 yards. Rolled over like a cowboy pony at the shot (mid-way up the chest behind the shoulder) and reversed his direction but died before another shot could be taken.

First shot at a standing sable was taken at 200+ yards and then hit him 2 of 3 shots running. He fell heavily at each shot but got up and continued running toward the edge of the concession area. The 3rd hit put him down for good but it still took at shot in the neck to finish it.

Also used it to good effect on buffalo and leopard - close range and other animals out to about 250 yards.

I couldn't imagine a much better all-around scope for forest hunting or where most shots must be taken quickly or not at all.

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Originally posted by DB Bill:
... on my 9.53 Lazzeroni Hellcat in Africa---

Now there is a useless caliber suitable only for folks lacking in taste!

Hey 500,

Are you typing with a wedgie or just feel like taking a shot at DB?

I don't know much about Lazz's 9.53 but it sounds like it worked okay for Bill. Did you have a bad experience?

Kyler

Kyler -- I'm one of those on AR who don't think 500grains is the final word on everything and if anyone dares disagee with him or suggest he's an arrogant bully then he likes to follow their posts and take shots. I suspect that when he sits down to his computer this is what he sees in the reflection of his monitor - at least in his mind's eye.



With respect to my 9.53 (375-caliber) Lazzeroni Hellcat it certainly isn't what many might think of as a traditional African rifle but it fits my style of shooting just fine - McMillan SS MCR-T action, 23" Schneider SS match-grade barrel, McMillan Mountain Rifle-style stock. metal NP-3 coated, and a weight of 8.5 pounds with scope and mounts-- 300gr Nosler at 2600 fps
which I usually load down to about 2540 fps for comfort -- basically a truncated .375 H&H.

Hey Bill,

I didn't realize it was anything personal. Like a seemingly logarithmically decreasing spiral I am one of the few that comes to these forums to learn. My first impulse isn't to jump on someone for my gratification. From 500's post I thought maybe he'd had a really bad experience with the Hellcat. I didn't realize he was taking a deliberate shot at you and I didn't mean to take a shot at him.

Oh well, it sounds like you've enjoyed your experiences with your rifle and that's what matters.

Didn't this start as a "Running Game" post..... talk about a hijacked thread. Sorry Foxshot. To get this back on track I'd have to put in my two cents for low power variables. Personally I've had great luck with the 2.5-8 Leupolds but I wouldn't mind trying the Swarovski or Khales 1.5-6x42.

Most of all it takes a lot of practice to shoot running game. Being good with a shotgun seems to help rifle shooters on running game. Like any other shooting it takes practice, practice, practice.

All the best,
Kyler

Kyler, I like rifles with functional features, not flashy frills. Nor am I a fan of ultra-high pressures, hence my disdain for the Lazz. When I first inquired about the apparently non-functional bolt body flutes, the bottom line from the mfr was that they look cool. This pretty much puts Lazz in the same category as Weatherby for me. Tacky and tastless, but appealing those who like flash rather than substance.

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DB Bill, it seems your feathers ruffle very easily!




If you cannot take it, then better not try to dish it out.

O.K. I give up but please no more negative remarks about my rifle I don't think I could stand it.