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What scope have you found to be the most consistent with respect to click adjustements;i.e, scope is 1/4 inch click adjustments; and six clicks consistently moves POI 1.5 inches


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Have a Swarovski PH 4-16x50 that does it like a champ. Have it on a 300 Wby and after playing with it a little I had everything where I wanted it but centered on target. I then made the desired clicks to put the bullet where I wanted it and it did exactly that. Put the next group right where it was supposed to. Really had good luck with all my Swarovski's.

Have a friend who uses nothing but Weaver Grand Slams for target shooting. He swears they are as good as it gets for making precise adjustments. He has several and swaps them all around on different guns. He also has Leupolds. His point is the Leupolds work good for him but he has more money to spend shooting by using the Grand Slams. So far he's been happy with them. I've seen him shoot one shot make the click adjustments and commence putting them through the bulls eye. (Wish I could do that...) Wink
 
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The old steeel Weavers, despite their marginal optics and leaky housings, had one of the best internal adjustments ever made on a scope. Four clicks was an inch, each and every time.

While Leupold has for a long time made the scope with the best combination of features as an optical gun sight, their adjustments have always seemed inconsistent to me.
 
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The old steeel Weavers, despite their marginal optics and leaky housings, had one of the best internal adjustments ever made on a scope. Four clicks was an inch, each and every time.


I couldn't agree more. They were absolutely predictable.

The Nikon Monarchs and even the BuckMasters are very consistent, as is the Zeiss Conquest lineup.

I have never been impressed by Leupold's adjustments.


Bobby
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Posts: 9376 | Location: Shiner TX USA | Registered: 19 March 2002Reply With Quote
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I love leupold scopes but I have seen the same thing. I thought it was just me. I'll mount a new scope get on the paper. Go to sight in at 100...I might be 4 inches off. I'll move 16 clicks and still find that I am 1.5 inches off


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Swarovski and Schmidt and Bender. Tom.


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Posts: 248 | Location: RIVESVILLE, WV | Registered: 20 August 2007Reply With Quote
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I have found the same thing with my two Leupolds. One is a 4x and up until recently was almost bang on to where I would adjust it. It seems to be slipping a bit in that regard, but it is over 25 years old, so I will give it a bit of a break. The 6x is far less consistent, so when I get it to where I want it, I don't bother to fool around with it again. It takes too much time and ammo to get it there!
Good Shooting,
Graham
 
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Swarovski and Schmidt and Bender. Tom.


+1 on all that and the Ziess Diavarias.

/Chris
 
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the old weaver T models - that is just what they were made for
 
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US Optics SN-3 and interestingly, my 10x Super Sniper.
Both scopes adjustments have been 100% accurate and repeatable.


cheaptrick.....out!!
 
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Nightforce as well, good optics too.


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

 
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Haven't had any of the Euro or similarly priced scopes. But of the many I have used, Weaver Grand Slam and Sightron SII target.
 
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Well, my Super Sniper 10x42 which was on back order for two months arrived yesterday and I had it mounted and bore sighted.

I bought this scope because of hugely positive testimonials and as Cheaptrick says above, it is tough, tracks well and holds zero.

I am anxious to start shooting with it now.
 
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Originally posted by Bobby Tomek:
Stonecreek wrote:
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The old steeel Weavers, despite their marginal optics and leaky housings, had one of the best internal adjustments ever made on a scope. Four clicks was an inch, each and every time.


I couldn't agree more. They were absolutely predictable.

The Nikon Monarchs and even the BuckMasters are very consistent, as is the Zeiss Conquest lineup.

I have never been impressed by Leupold's adjustments.


Yup, Me too.


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Leupolds have been frustratingly inconsistent for me too. Swarovski ok. S&B dead on.

JPK


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Nightforce adjustments are precise and accurate each and ever adjustment ... thumb


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