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Originally posted by fujotupu:
Superb!!
Only in West Tanzania will you still find such natural, free-roaming specimen.

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:
This is a common sable Andrew

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by fujotupu:
Superb!!
Only in West Tanzania will you still find such natural, free-roaming specimen.

Roosevelt?

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:
This is a common sable Andrew

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Originally posted by fujotupu:
If it were a Roosevelt it would qualify as the new and probably unbeatable world record!

Other than that, the Roosevelt Sable is only found in the Selous and its immediate borders the northern part of Mozambique.

The rest of sables taken in other areas of Tanzania are known as the Common or East African Sable.

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Also I believe that a couple of roosevelts of about that size and bigger have been shot in Federico Gellinis Kilwa area

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Originally posted by fujotupu:
Manuel,

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Also I believe that a couple of roosevelts of about that size and bigger have been shot in Federico Gellinis Kilwa area

Photographic evidence to back up those 2 Roosevelts "matching and larger" taken in Gellini's area would be of interest as in all the years I have spent hunting in and adjacent the Selous have I ever seen/shot any over 42"

You can expect to find Roosvelts in Kilwa Open as it borders the Selous and therefore part of the SGR ecosystem.

It is also a fact that you will not find the larger bodied/horned Common Sable in the Selous.

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I managed to kill a pretty good Roosevelt Sable in Kilwa open area last year.
I saw probably, 20-30 trophy sized Sable during that safari.

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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I managed to kill a pretty good Roosevelt Sable in Kilwa open area last year.
I saw probably, 20-30 trophy sized Sable during that safari.

Nganga,

How many including the one you shot were close to 46 - or were they more in the 39-41 class?

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Originally posted by fujotupu:
Manuel,

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Also I believe that a couple of roosevelts of about that size and bigger have been shot in Federico Gellinis Kilwa area

Photographic evidence to back up those 2 Roosevelts "matching and larger" taken in Gellini's area would be of interest as in all the years I have spent hunting in and adjacent the Selous have I ever seen/shot any over 42"

You can expect to find Roosvelts in Kilwa Open as it borders the Selous and therefore part of the SGR ecosystem.

It is also a fact that you will not find the larger bodied/horned Common Sable in the Selous.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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I managed to kill a pretty good Roosevelt Sable in Kilwa open area last year.
I saw probably, 20-30 trophy sized Sable during that safari.

Nganga,

How many including the one you shot were close to 46 - or were they more in the 39-41 class?

I would go to the next class lower. I bet the largest I saw was 38-39? Saw a couple big dead ones. The place was littered with dead shit.

The air was permeated with the foul stench of death...everywhere.

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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I managed to kill a pretty good Roosevelt Sable in Kilwa open area last year.
I saw probably, 20-30 trophy sized Sable during that safari.

Nganga,

How many including the one you shot were close to 46 - or were they more in the 39-41 class?

I would go to the next class lower. I bet the largest I saw was 38-39? Saw a couple big dead ones. The place was littered with dead shit.

The air was permeated with the foul stench of death...everywhere.

And then there are many who refuse to let such atrocities happen.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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I managed to kill a pretty good Roosevelt Sable in Kilwa open area last year.
I saw probably, 20-30 trophy sized Sable during that safari.

Nganga,

How many including the one you shot were close to 46 - or were they more in the 39-41 class?

I would go to the next class lower. I bet the largest I saw was 38-39? Saw a couple big dead ones. The place was littered with dead shit.

The air was permeated with the foul stench of death...everywhere.

And then there are many who refuse to let such atrocities happen.

Hi Andrew,
It is beyond my ability to comprehend how an operator would allow his GMA to deteriorate to this point.

The land and animals were being decimated by human greed.

There were 75 local workers employed by some guy from Dubai who was building a humongous personal residence, 200 yards from the only permanent water for miles.

Biggest disappointment in my 20 years of international hunting.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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I managed to kill a pretty good Roosevelt Sable in Kilwa open area last year.
I saw probably, 20-30 trophy sized Sable during that safari.

Nganga,

How many including the one you shot were close to 46 - or were they more in the 39-41 class?

I would go to the next class lower. I bet the largest I saw was 38-39? Saw a couple big dead ones. The place was littered with dead shit.

The air was permeated with the foul stench of death...everywhere.

And then there are many who refuse to let such atrocities happen.

Hi Andrew,
It is beyond my ability to comprehend how an operator would allow his GMA to deteriorate to this point.

The land and animals were being decimated by human greed.

There were 75 local workers employed by some guy from Dubai who was building a humongous personal residence, 200 yards from the only permanent water for miles.

Biggest disappointment in my 20 years of international hunting.

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Originally posted by Bwanamich:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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I managed to kill a pretty good Roosevelt Sable in Kilwa open area last year.
I saw probably, 20-30 trophy sized Sable during that safari.

Nganga,

How many including the one you shot were close to 46 - or were they more in the 39-41 class?

I would go to the next class lower. I bet the largest I saw was 38-39? Saw a couple big dead ones. The place was littered with dead shit.

The air was permeated with the foul stench of death...everywhere.

And then there are many who refuse to let such atrocities happen.

Hi Andrew,
It is beyond my ability to comprehend how an operator would allow his GMA to deteriorate to this point.

The land and animals were being decimated by human greed.

There were 75 local workers employed by some guy from Dubai who was building a humongous personal residence, 200 yards from the only permanent water for miles.

Biggest disappointment in my 20 years of international hunting.

Research, research and research. Kilwa's best days are looooong gone and even back then, it was known as a decent ele area (in season) with medium other game.