Will just share a story that happend to me just before Christmas.

Had 3 agencies (police, our Fish and wildlife and another one) come to my house. I were not at home so they called me on the phone and asked if I could come home because they had had got a anonymous tip that I had illegal wildlife at home. (ivory, zebra etc).

I was out travelling so had no chance to be home so they got a warrant and searched my house. I Do have a lot of animals at home but have all papers.

They thought I needed import papers from my Zim ivory - I dont, just export papers.

They thought I needed import papers from a Oryx/ibex and so on. They were just so misinformed and not up to date

One of the guys that did the search had written that I had a giraffe foot (I have no skins or anything from a giraffe, it turned out to be a Zebra foot from Namibia). These guys had zero idea what they were doing IMO.

They took photos of all animals and sent it to animal History museum or something like that so they could say what specimen it was.


In the end it came down to a turtle ( that was the only thing I did not have a import permit for) I got from my grandfather when he died 15 years ago, I could prove it was + 50 years old and that it was a gift so they could not do anything about that one either.

So after a lot of sending in papers and interrogations they dropped the case today...

If I had lost a paper of any of my animals from last 10-15 years I would be in big trouble

I am sorry that the political machine has gotten to what it is in your country, but glad you had all your papers in order.
(Hijack warning)
I think this is a good illustration of exactly what a lot of common sense Americans are trying to stop here at home. I am a collector also, and as a rule love fauna and flora, and by extension, knowledge. Being able to possess such items and show and teach others about your passion for the natural world ought not be such a bureaucratic circus. I guess it goes down to the gov't thinking it knows what is better for a man, than the man himself.

WOW!! Glad things turned out all right for you Anton. I suppose that could happen to any of us anywhere.

Yes I would recommend everyone have their papers in order and know where they are.

I have moved quite a few times last few years, so I had all that in a rented storage unit. Never thought I would be needed to show them to anyone again.

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Originally posted by A.Dahlgren:
Will just share a story that happend to me just before Christmas.

Had 3 agencies (police, our Fish and wildlife and another one) come to my house. I were not at home so they called me on the phone and asked if I could come home because they had had got a anonymous tip that I had illegal wildlife at home. (ivory, zebra etc).

I was out travelling so had no chance to be home so they got a warrant and searched my house. I Do have a lot of animals at home but have all papers.

They thought I needed import papers from my Zim ivory - I dont, just export papers.

They thought I needed import papers from a Oryx/ibex and so on. They were just so misinformed and not up to date

One of the guys that did the search had written that I had a giraffe foot (I have no skins or anything from a giraffe, it turned out to be a Zebra foot from Namibia). These guys had zero idea what they were doing IMO.

They took photos of all animals and sent it to animal History museum or something like that so they could say what specimen it was.


In the end it came down to a turtle ( that was the only thing I did not have a import permit for) I got from my grandfather when he died 15 years ago, I could prove it was + 50 years old and that it was a gift so they could not do anything about that one either.

So after a lot of sending in papers and interrogations they dropped the case today...

If I had lost a paper of any of my animals from last 10-15 years I would be in big trouble.

So who dropped the dime on you? That POS needs a serious talking to.

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Originally posted by surestrike:

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Originally posted by A.Dahlgren:
Will just share a story that happend to me just before Christmas.

Had 3 agencies (police, our Fish and wildlife and another one) come to my house. I were not at home so they called me on the phone and asked if I could come home because they had had got a anonymous tip that I had illegal wildlife at home. (ivory, zebra etc).

I was out travelling so had no chance to be home so they got a warrant and searched my house. I Do have a lot of animals at home but have all papers.

They thought I needed import papers from my Zim ivory - I dont, just export papers.

They thought I needed import papers from a Oryx/ibex and so on. They were just so misinformed and not up to date

One of the guys that did the search had written that I had a giraffe foot (I have no skins or anything from a giraffe, it turned out to be a Zebra foot from Namibia). These guys had zero idea what they were doing IMO.

They took photos of all animals and sent it to animal History museum or something like that so they could say what specimen it was.


In the end it came down to a turtle ( that was the only thing I did not have a import permit for) I got from my grandfather when he died 15 years ago, I could prove it was + 50 years old and that it was a gift so they could not do anything about that one either.

So after a lot of sending in papers and interrogations they dropped the case today...

If I had lost a paper of any of my animals from last 10-15 years I would be in big trouble.

So who dropped the dime on you? That POS needs a serious talking to.

They would not tell and its not in the paper file.

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So who dropped the dime on you? That POS needs a serious talking to.

It could be that the "anonymous tipper" might have been one among other guests that you may have entertained at your residence some time or another and whom took your trophy collection in poor form.

Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately it was probably someone who watches your Instagram account and did a little digging. It's not hard. Eric Hoffer said that people mind their own business when it is worth minding, when it's not, they busy themselves by minding the business of other people. He was dead on.

And I love your Instagram page, by the way.

Glad things worked out for you. I'm presume this is why you asked about the species of the little turtle a while back?

https://usia.com/2016/02/buste...ial-media-sleuthing/



Busted! Social Media Sleuthing
ARTICLES | FEBRUARY 11, 2016 BY WEBGUY


Social media is a great thing for outdoor sports enthusiasts. It connects people with different backgrounds and in different social strata. It gives people who live vast distances apart the chance to exchange ideas. It allows people to form groups where otherwise they never would have formed. Tips and tricks and hacks can all be communicated in real time, across the world, to anyone who wants to know them. What an amazing thing social media is! But not all sportsmen and women like social media. Not the cheaters, the poachers, and the boneheads who are trying to game the system. People love to brag, and nowadays they are boasting online instead of behind closed doors. The problem for them is people are watching. People like game wardens and police. Here are a few instances of social media sleuthing…

Texas Fishermen Busted on Social Media for Bragging About Exceeded Bag Limits
Two anglers in Texas found themselves deep in hot water after a picture of them standing in front of their catch went viral on social media. With the public’s help, authorities were able to identify the pair and bring them to justice. The incident was so infamous it spurred a Texas A&M University professor to explain to the public the need for bag limits and why it is so detrimental the two men did what they did. Lesson: don’t take more than you are allowed.

Game Wardens Use Facebook As Investigatory Tool
This article is not about one particular incident. Rather it’s a cautionary tale to anyone who might be contemplating breaking the law when it comes to hunting and fishing. Game wardens have figured out a very important thing about human psychology. We just can’t keep our big mouths shut. That goes especially for hunters and fishers. Even if what we did was illegal, maybe especially because it was illegal, we can’t stop talking about it. Back in the day it used to be bragging in private. Maybe it was in the bar or at a buddy’s house. But now the bragging is being done on the internet. Not smart.

Social Media Post Leads Feds to Bust Nevada Wildlife Poachers
Not all social media poaching busts are small time individuals who made a bad call on one particular day. Sometimes the busts are significant. In this case, the authorities used social media to investigate and ultimately bring down a poaching ring in Nevada. It turned out that three men had been illegally killing and butchering deer and other animals across the state for several years when one of them posted a picture of their exploits online. The result was a slew of felony charges.

Texas Game Warden Catches Lawbreaking Angler On Facebook
Don’t mess with Texas. And especially don’t mess with Texas game wardens. They mean business, and they will go the extra mile to get their man. Case in point: the unfortunate story of Luis Castro. After fishing for and catching some oversided red drums, he posted a picture on social media. Thanks to some conscientious fishers, game wardens in Texas were alerted. Castro was identified and arrested.

Man claiming to catch record fish charged with wildlife violations
REYNOLDS COUNTY, MO (KFVS) -A Farmington man’s claim that he ‘reeled in’ an 83-pound catfish landed him in legal hot water. Last summer, Anthony Stacy put a post on Facebook bragging about catching the flathead on Clearwater Lake. Stacy said he used limb lines and live bait. After a long investigation, a Missouri Conservation agent proved that story was not completely true. Stacy pleaded guilty in Reynolds County to two counts of illegally shooting flathead catfish with bow fishing equipment.

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Originally posted by A.Dahlgren:
Will just share a story that happend to me just before Christmas.

Had 3 agencies (police, our Fish and wildlife and another one) come to my house. I were not at home so they called me on the phone and asked if I could come home because they had had got a anonymous tip that I had illegal wildlife at home. (ivory, zebra etc).

I was out travelling so had no chance to be home so they got a warrant and searched my house. I Do have a lot of animals at home but have all papers.

They thought I needed import papers from my Zim ivory - I dont, just export papers.

They thought I needed import papers from a Oryx/ibex and so on. They were just so misinformed and not up to date

One of the guys that did the search had written that I had a giraffe foot (I have no skins or anything from a giraffe, it turned out to be a Zebra foot from Namibia). These guys had zero idea what they were doing IMO.

They took photos of all animals and sent it to animal History museum or something like that so they could say what specimen it was.


In the end it came down to a turtle ( that was the only thing I did not have a import permit for) I got from my grandfather when he died 15 years ago, I could prove it was + 50 years old and that it was a gift so they could not do anything about that one either.

So after a lot of sending in papers and interrogations they dropped the case today...

If I had lost a paper of any of my animals from last 10-15 years I would be in big trouble

Ahhhh, Anton.

Our Scandinavian "Call to harass a Swede" phone prank still Works !!! +47 08-402 60 00

Sorry they messed With you. They could have sorted this out by a quick search on you name.
As we say in Norway, some People are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Seems you just met up With some of them.

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Originally posted by A.Dahlgren:
Will just share a story that happend to me just before Christmas.

Had 3 agencies (police, our Fish and wildlife and another one) come to my house. I were not at home so they called me on the phone and asked if I could come home because they had had got a anonymous tip that I had illegal wildlife at home. (ivory, zebra etc).

I was out travelling so had no chance to be home so they got a warrant and searched my house. I Do have a lot of animals at home but have all papers.

They thought I needed import papers from my Zim ivory - I dont, just export papers.

They thought I needed import papers from a Oryx/ibex and so on. They were just so misinformed and not up to date

One of the guys that did the search had written that I had a giraffe foot (I have no skins or anything from a giraffe, it turned out to be a Zebra foot from Namibia). These guys had zero idea what they were doing IMO.

They took photos of all animals and sent it to animal History museum or something like that so they could say what specimen it was.


In the end it came down to a turtle ( that was the only thing I did not have a import permit for) I got from my grandfather when he died 15 years ago, I could prove it was + 50 years old and that it was a gift so they could not do anything about that one either.

So after a lot of sending in papers and interrogations they dropped the case today...

If I had lost a paper of any of my animals from last 10-15 years I would be in big trouble

Sorry to hear this Anton. But of course you got the satesfaction to prove them wrong.
There is only one place in the world were there are are more real socialistic bureaucrats than in Sweden; Denmark.

Good Hunting
Carl Frederik

It's a good thing your paperwork was in order.

Jösses!

Did not think that would happen here in Västerbotten! Wonder were I have all my documents...

Sorry this happened to you my friend. So glad you escaped without losing any of your precious trophies. Big brother is always out there....