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Is it possible to identify the sub-species of bushbuck from just a shoulder mount?
03 July 2010, 23:32
TheBigGuyIs it possible to identify the sub-species of bushbuck from just a shoulder mount?
If it is possible to determine the subspecies of bushbuck from a shoulder mount, how is this done? What are the identifying characteristics?
I'm mostly wondering about the differences between the Cape, Limpopo and Chobe subspecies.
04 July 2010, 20:54
Oryxhunter1983There are genetic tests that can be done, now just by looking? I have no idea!
05 July 2010, 04:40
billrquimbyI don't know about the Cape subspecies but, based strictly on the two types I've shot, the Chobe bushbuck will have a reddish coat and the Limpopo bushbuck will be darker and grayish.
Bill Quimby
05 July 2010, 05:42
L. David KeithI've been told that biologists think there could be as many as 29 sub species of African Bushbuck, based on the nine species. I know it is more than likely some overlap areas and transplanting can throw a wrench into the mix. Genetic decoding would be the most accurate determination.
Limpopo (taken in Natal)
3-Cape Bushbuck(all taken in the EC from different locals)
Chobe (taken in Zim)
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05 July 2010, 23:25
craig boddingtonI think it is impossible to tell from shoulder mounts. Cape and Menelik's bushbuck tend to be very dark. Chobe, Abyssinian, harnessed, and Nile tend to be very red. East African and Limpopo seem to average more mahogany than red or black...but individuals vary a lot among all the bushbuck. On bushbuck the "splitters" beat the "lumpers," but the record book categories are pretty loose, sensibly combining regional groupings. Thank God we don't have hunt 29 different bushbuck...come to think of it, that would be kinda fun!!!!!!
05 July 2010, 23:48
billrquimbyquote:
I've been told that biologists think there could be as many as 29 sub species of African Bushbuck, based on the nine species.
There is only one species of bushbuck.
Bill Quimby
07 July 2010, 21:43
TheBigGuyquote:
Originally posted by L. David Keith:
I've been told that biologists think there could be as many as 29 sub species of African Bushbuck, based on the nine species. I know it is more than likely some overlap areas and transplanting can throw a wrench into the mix. Genetic decoding would be the most accurate determination.
Limpopo (taken in Natal)
3-Cape Bushbuck(all taken in the EC from different locals)
Chobe (taken in Zim)
That's an excellent collection of Bushbucks!
07 July 2010, 22:20
DCS Memberquote:
Originally posted by craig boddington:
I think it is impossible to tell from shoulder mounts. Cape and Menelik's bushbuck tend to be very dark. Chobe, Abyssinian, harnessed, and Nile tend to be very red. East African and Limpopo seem to average more mahogany than red or black...but individuals vary a lot among all the bushbuck. On bushbuck the "splitters" beat the "lumpers," but the record book categories are pretty loose, sensibly combining regional groupings. Thank God we don't have hunt 29 different bushbuck...come to think of it, that would be kinda fun!!!!!!
Forget the lions, it should be Boddington on Bushbuck next!
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07 July 2010, 23:39
MARK H. YOUNGI personally have five of the different types of bushbuck and as Craig said the only notable difference in the shoulder mounts is the coloration.
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TheBigGuyI'm beginning to see why I've heard so many folks say they would get a full body mount on a bushbuck. Thanks so much for the insight and pictures folks!
08 July 2010, 02:39
L. David KeithSpots, stripes and chevon's will vary from species to species, but can be similar in several. It's almost anything goes with Bushbuck. Cheers, David
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#926103994110 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
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Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......
"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
08 July 2010, 22:28
billrquimbyFYI:
The word species is both singular and plural. "Specie" refers to money, specifically coins. There is only one species of bushbuck.
Bill Quimby
08 July 2010, 23:06
billrquimbyOops!
Wikipedia lists two distinct species of bushbuck -- the Kéwel (Tragelaphus scriptus) and the Imbabala (Tragelaphus sylvaticus).
This classification apparently is recent and is not reflected in either the SCI or Rowland Ward books.
Bill Quimby