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Habitat Loss: The Wildlife's Greatest Dilemma

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27 March 2018, 02:06
Dave Fulson
Habitat Loss: The Wildlife's Greatest Dilemma
I wanted to share an important video message we created for the DSC Foundation's social media. It highlights the hunter/conservationist as the only proven protection for the wildlife of Africa from the exploding human population. Watching and agreeing with the message is not enough, please share this with your hunting and non-hunting friends. Let's use social media for our cause.
Cheers and Thanks,
Dave

DSC Foundation Video: A "Growing" Dilemma


Dave Fulson
27 March 2018, 02:16
shootaway
That was the best video conservation message so far.Is there a copy of this on youtube? I want to give it a like.This message needs to be played on a major news channel or some place of the sort where non hunters and everyone else can see it.This should not just be for DSC members to see.
27 March 2018, 02:23
jorge
Exactly on point, Dave! Superb video and makes me proud to be a Life Member of DSC.


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27 March 2018, 02:29
Dave Fulson
Thanks for the comments. You inquired about a YouTube copy, the answer is yes, there is one. Here is the link for that.

A "Growing" Dilemma Youtube Link


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27 March 2018, 02:52
MJines
Thank you Tim and Dave. What a powerful message. And it is a message that most people, hunters and non-hunters, can readily understand and appreciate.

I think the dilemma for us as hunters is how do we spread this message. I will plead guilty to frequently watching a video like this and nodding my head in agreement . . . and then moving on without doing anything to share or spread the message. That's a pity. If we are left with just "preaching to the choir" we can hardly complain that the messaging battle is being lost.

I would encourage each of us to consider ways that we can spread the message. Many are active on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, if so share the message via those platforms. Others, like me, are less facile with social media. Here is what I am going to do. I am going to send an email with the attached video to a number of friends that are either non-hunters or non-African hunters. I am going to encourage those folks to share the message with their friends through social media or email.

The winners in today's information age are going to be those groups that can communicate a convincing message to the broadest audience possible. Tim, Dave and the DSC Foundation are giving us the messages through this video and others done recently . . . now it is incumbent on us to ensure that the message is spread. I plan to do my part.


Mike
27 March 2018, 03:02
JTEX
Outstanding!

I have shared the you tube link to many!

A very powerful and logic driven argument. How do we get it in front of the masses? We have been preaching to the choir for decades.
27 March 2018, 03:22
Custom
Great job, Dave! I will pass this on to as many hunting and non-hunting friends as I can.


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27 March 2018, 03:33
ledvm
Outstanding Dave!


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27 March 2018, 03:50
MJines
quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
How do we get it in front of the masses?


Jim, I think we can all help. Like you I just emailed the video to 20+ friends and encouraged them to not just watch it, but to share it with others too. Others can do likewise. Many are active on the social media platforms and can post there. If you are someone that uses blogs in addition to AR like 24Campfire, Marlins Owners, etc., make a blog post with a link to the video.


Mike
27 March 2018, 05:15
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Good job Richard and Dave!


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27 March 2018, 05:28
Saeed
Fantastic!

We need more like this.


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27 March 2018, 05:39
drj
Would one of you tech experts enlighten me on how I can copy the you tube link and email it like Mike? Is it as simple as cut and paste? Thanks for the help


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27 March 2018, 05:42
MJines
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zYAeEID6LzY

Just copy and paste the foregoing.


Mike
27 March 2018, 05:43
drj
Thanks, Mike.


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27 March 2018, 05:51
bwanamrm
I shared on my Facebook page. I know many of you shy away, certainly understandable. But to get the message out it is a platform we must use effectively.

And nicely done to our friends at Safari Classics! Kudos Dave and Tim.


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27 March 2018, 06:25
BaxterB
A good video. There should be more that directly refute (with evidence) claims made by the anti- organizations, and also that address the seeming contradiction of how hunting help wildlife, not just claim that it does. I think we have to fully acknowledge people’s (those whose minds are open and changeable)concerns and respond to them. It’s not enough just to present a case, but we have start with a prevalent complaint such as, “Some reports claim that only a small fraction of money generated during a hunt actually goes to help animals/communities,” then do a dollar by dollar breakdown of how it works. We can’t solve this problem by simplifying it, it has to be complicated to the point people understand that the answer is likely more complex than the problem, and then be willing to accept something that might seem counterintuitive as a solution.
27 March 2018, 06:27
Crazyhorseconsulting
I shared it on mine, sincerely hope it does some good.

It is good accurate estimation of the problem.


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28 March 2018, 00:22
LHeym500
We shared and emailed. Thank You DSC and Safari Classics Team.
28 March 2018, 00:38
Safari2
Shared on FB
28 March 2018, 00:41
adamhunter
Shared on FB!


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28 March 2018, 00:50
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28 March 2018, 02:49
AB109
Fantastic ! Well Done !
28 March 2018, 04:54
Clan_Colla
Very good work - yet-

Much as with Texas Bob White-

Habitat loss is generally always a, if not, the top causative factor in wild populations decline.

Here in Texas, the Fire Ant bore the blame, when it was far down the list of causative factors behind:

Complete Habitat loss, Partial Habitat loss due to changed burn practices,
decreased diversity in agricultural planting,larger aggregated land with fewer fence lines,
tree and brush pods, small tanks, invasive plant species replacing native bushes forbs & grasses,
breaking up large areas of rangeland into small plots, avian and mammalian predator resurgence,
(including feral house cats)as the population of the rural areas migrated to urban areas,
disease, etc etc-

Yet, the fire ant was the popular and convenient villain-

Now , with Africa hunting and poaching
incorrectly lumped together are seen as the villain,

by the anti's, greenies,non-hunters,casual observers and even some hunters
as the primary difficulty for African wildlife's future.
when habitat loss again,by far leads the parade of reasons.

Messages like this video are very beneficial,
yet alone, unlikely to sway the casual observer to become involved.

The input and public pronouncements of scientist with hard data to support the evidence will be needed;
and these statements will need to be widely disseminated.
Lobbying efforts on our government officials at all levels of influence are sorely needed.

As In Texas where the majority of people that offer an opinion-
still place the fire ant as the primary reason for quail loss.
Though it is incorrect, it is the "reality" they hold on to.

We will face similar,
no, in my opinion,much greater resistance to education and acceptance of accurate data on Africa
by both the US and World populace on the Wildlife plight.

This will be largely due to the currently held views of the masses-
secondary to the now long running ,highly successful emotional,tear jerking anti hunting advertising work,
as well as the "cutesy and or cuddley" video works of the leading anti-hunting and other "pro-animal" organizations.

The slog will be hard and long and expensive,
and as in the past ,
the hunting community will have to pay the bill as we have with almost all successful African Wildlife Preservation efforts.
28 March 2018, 20:50
LB
Great message that the general population needs to see and hear. Well done!!
02 April 2018, 16:01
shootaway
I watched the video a number of times and I have some thoughts to share.The video did not seem to get a high response and I was wondering why.I felt the content or message in the video to be its greatest asset.It could be that the images in the video or the narration need to be improved.I ask myself would a person who has little interest in the outdoors or any person want to sit through the whole video? Do people find this video cool?
02 April 2018, 17:42
fulvio
And the African politicians will ask: "where will our growing population go and settle, plant crops and survive, if not on fallow land?".

In a nutshell such a priority will be at the expense of the wildlife populations.

I in particular had several years ago already raised the subject of the increasing human encroachment on land which was shared with the nomadic Masai; of the rampant, uncontrolled and irrational bush-clearing that was taking place in Masailand, hampering the traditional migratory routes, to the ever-increasing herds of livestock that were razing the ground to endless expanses of arid wilderness.

People are now waking up to a problem that was ignored at a time when something might have been done but has now reached untold proportions which cannot be undone.

The only areas which may survive will be those that are charted, demarcated and declared Game Reserves and National Parks.

Those are the bare facts.
02 April 2018, 18:23
bwanajay
Thanks Dave and Tim!
04 April 2018, 01:58
Tim Vining
Very well done. Must be spread far and wide


Tim

04 April 2018, 04:00
Crazyhorseconsulting
Just a comment, Nothing More!

Why should Africa control its population growth, when so many Americans on here are opposed to birth control/abortions, any method or means to limit population growth?

Any of you/all of you can take exception to my comments, but realistically. I find it highly hypocrital for Americans or Europeans to call for any Third World country to limit the growth of their populations, while at the same time denouncing ANY efforts to control our own population growth.


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04 April 2018, 04:26
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
How do we get it in front of the masses?


Jim, I think we can all help. Like you I just emailed the video to 20+ friends and encouraged them to not just watch it, but to share it with others too. Others can do likewise. Many are active on the social media platforms and can post there. If you are someone that uses blogs in addition to AR like 24Campfire, Marlins Owners, etc., make a blog post with a link to the video.


That is an excellent idea. I keep preaching to my non-hunting friends no one is going to pay for game reserves except hunters.


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04 April 2018, 22:33
samir
I think that is the best message I have heard. tu2


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