The footage is taken from "As the dust settles" - ordering details are on our site.

Glad folk have been able to view it and found it interesting.

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Originally posted by Bwanahile:
Thanks for the link Bob. I wonder if perhaps the buff was enraged by that lovely blue shirt the hunter was wearing?

Nothing wrong with the color of the shirt. Dark Blue clothing (like most dark colors) is quite acceptable for hunting purposes....

I too would liek to know the calibers of the guns used. anyone knows the details?

PeterV -- is this video available in European format? If so, I would love to purchase it. Great coverage!

Yep, she stood her ground!
Thanks for the link Bob!

In quick repsonse to some of the querries here;

Virginia did a great job - she is an experienced hunter with several big cats to her name amongst other. She did have some help in stopping the buff ... but given the circumstances it was obviousley warranted.

I'll call Glen Haldane and get firearm details if possible i.e. calibre etc.

The rest of the details re the clip are available here http://www.africanhuntersguild.com/nonMembers.aspx?control={D2238E39-74B1-46b3-95DB-BDFAD2C09C91}

Will also revert with info on whether the DVD is playable in European zone formats.

We have a fair bit of other footage that I will add next week ... more buff as well as elephant footage.

We will stream it live from our portal i.e it is not intended for download and will only be viewable in a "small window" while streaming. This is pretty much as a result of trying to optimise it and keep the size to a managable level.

Viewing problems seem mostly due to traffic - our servers, while robust, took a bit of flack last night given volumes.

In the meantime I'm going kick back with a beverage and some biltong and browse the footage for the next exerpt .... tough but someone has to do it.

Thanks Peter, Thanks Bob.

One can see the most intelligent stay behind a tree, she refused the sticks. A pity it's a gal who has to show us how to play.

Thanks Guys for the great clip!

Question to the group,

Is that tree good enough to escape if the buffalo wasn't stopped?

Thanks

Minkman

I have a lot of respect for Virginia. Like others said, she stood her ground in the face of one of the most brutal animals on the planet. Good for her!

Old George at his best. Virginia may hunt with me any time .thanks . Charlie

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Originally posted by Minkman:
Thanks Guys for the great clip!

Question to the group,

Is that tree good enough to escape if the buffalo wasn't stopped?

Thanks

Minkman

I personaly have seen 4" green sapling mowed down as if mere twigs by a large determined one. Charlie

I wonder why not shoot when it was broadside, the window of opportunity was small but she can shoot pretty fast and she was ready and on a rest.

the chef

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Originally posted by calgarychef1:
I wonder why not shoot when it was broadside, the window of opportunity was small but she can shoot pretty fast and she was ready and on a rest.

the chef

He was a small one and they wanted to pass him up, but sometimes that just doesnt happen so you have seen. If you have a second tag you hope for a bigger one, if not then you got the one that wanted you. I have a old scared faced,broken horn one on my wall thats is as ugly as sin. Would i part with him? hell no he almsot punched my ticket and he'll always remind me of it. Charlie

Charlie Mc,

What are the limits? 6" thick? 8"?

How high do you have to go to be safe?

How high up was that guy that had his foot licked raw by the Buff?

Thanks,

Minkman

Minkman, i dont know the answer on thickness, nor am i willing to test it out. I have heard the story regarding the chap with the sore foot i suppose it was the salt from his sweat that caused this. How high? i dont know i have always done what Virginia did, stand my ground and have at it. Thats why i purcahased a .470 double,who thinks "iorn sighted cannons are not needed" now ? Charlie

It doesn't help if the tree is 1 foot or 2 feet wide! If you expect to be able to dodge the charge as a torero dodges a charging bull in a spanish arena then you better think thwice. Buffs are extremely agile, accurate and fast with their horn tossing - they would still hook you around that tree!

If you have a gun and it is loaded, i suspect your best chance is to stand your ground and , as someones' signature reads, "shoot him where he thinks"

I doubt tree climbing is much of an option for most of us; we aren't nimble enough nor have we been practising much since childhood

Great Action and one tough and determined beast!
The fourth and fifth shot almost sound as one and the smoke from two rifles are evident enough that two rifles were fired at that big bruiser! Thanks for the Vid Clip! Awesome!!

Makes me think next year is going to be very interesting. Doesn't seem like a herbivore should be that damn mean.

It never occurred to me, until now, that if I decided to pass"" on a bull it might decide not to "pass" on me.

Virginia is a gutsy lady! Cudos to her.

Based on my young days working as an ambulance attendant in college, my experience tells me that one can never quite know how they will react under such pressure ... particularly if it is set upon them without warning or preparation for the event. One hopes that DG hunters do better on the average because they have some of both, and the right mind set.

This is a great video to make folks fully aware that this endeavor is risky and that they should be prepared. Also a good evidence here that a heavy caliber gun really does have its place!

Hi Folks,

Seeing as though many have enjoyed the clip I have found another exciting one of one more determined buffalo...this time in real tight mopane bush which ends up with hunters, trackers and buffalo all over the show.

Right now the good ole guys are using a large hammer to retrofit it from vhs to dvd to here...watch this space.!

Regards

Holy Cow Chips, Batman!!!!!! pg

Charles, thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about the size thingy. You can tell I've not been to Africa. If it was a moose I could sure field judge it though.

thanks again

the chef

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Originally posted by calgarychef1:
Charles, thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about the size thingy. You can tell I've not been to Africa. If it was a moose I could sure field judge it though.

thanks again

the chef

Dont worry about it, when your time comes i hope you can hunt with pros like these.They will tell you whats up and as you can see they lend a hand when needed. Charlie

Minkman..since I shot a buf with the Lott, my aim was straight at him and not aiming down..Parallel to the ground..6 feet he would hook you with his horns...Definate 8 feet..In my opinion..

Mike

On the small screen it was hard for me to tell what the range was to the buff.

When do you think it was realistic to head shoot (brain) him?

I guessed by the time the PH said, "Shoot, shoot, shoot. . ." the last time, he was close enough to brain, even with being off-axis (quartering) a little bit.

Is this a fair assumption?

Andy

A head shot is ALWAYS possible, you just have to let him get a lot closer than that bull got!

With me its shoulder or over the head shots until he gets real close, and normally he will go down before that..at least so far its worked.

But sometimes they charge with the nose straight out pointing at you and the eyes always got my attention, they are big as tennis balls and looking at only one of the party, I think they were almost as big as mine get under the same circumstances !! That charge position is better for a head shot, but he will drop it just before he sticks that horn up your keyster, thats your last chance for a head shot, so don't miss...

this bull struck me as plenty pissed off, and really wanting to kill anything in his way, a true charge in every since..I got the impression these bulls have been hunted and choused hard and are mad before they get shot, buffalo are like that. It happens on fenced herds that are hunted a lot all year around.

Were there any old injuries found when the bull was skinned?

Thanks

Minkman

Old George is like a grouchy old man some times it doesnt take much to piss him off more than he already is. Sometimes all it takes is eye contact other times it takes a hit from a rifle and when he finds you he will come. He makes no appologies about who he is, and in my book he is a true warrior. He gives no quarter and asks for none. He is the best of the bunch and always will be a far as i am concerned. Charlie

Wow! That was really exciting! And, I still have 134 days before I get my first chance!
Dave