Hi,
does one of you have any studies on this or other studies that show that hunting protects Wildlife instead of destroying it?
I've found a lot of infosbut no good quality studies.

Regards

Caracal

There was a recent UN study. This might give you what you need to find it:

http://www1.voanews.com/englis...imals--98843969.html

Do you think a study is really needed to figure that out?!!

I agree that the retention of hunting would have been beneficial. But the real problem in Kenya has been and will continue to be, population explosion.

At independence there we under 9 million people in Kenya. Now there are 40 million.

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Originally posted by Milo Shanghai:
I agree that the retention of hunting would have been beneficial. But the real problem in Kenya has been and will continue to be, population explosion.

At independence there we under 9 million people in Kenya. Now there are 40 million.

The do-gooders save them all. And then when the famine comes the do-gooders will be in high gear.

There are lots and lots of studies that show the benefits of trophy hunting: to the wildlife, the rural peoples of Africa, the economies of the countries, and on and on. A good place to start is at the CIC website. They have links to their own and others studies throughout. Start at their publications page HERE.

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Also, Peter Lindsey has done more than one - like this study.

Rolf Baldus too.

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by Milo Shanghai:
I agree that the retention of hunting would have been beneficial. But the real problem in Kenya has been and will continue to be, population explosion.

At independence there we under 9 million people in Kenya. Now there are 40 million.

The do-gooders save them all. And then when the famine comes the do-gooders will be in high gear.

Well if humans are such a problem here on Earth what specifically is preventing the two of you from leading by example and slipping it's surly bonds? Or is it just others' existence you begrudge?

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Originally posted by Wismon:

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by Milo Shanghai:
I agree that the retention of hunting would have been beneficial. But the real problem in Kenya has been and will continue to be, population explosion.

At independence there we under 9 million people in Kenya. Now there are 40 million.

The do-gooders save them all. And then when the famine comes the do-gooders will be in high gear.

Well if humans are such a problem here on Earth what specifically is preventing the two of you from leading by example and slipping it's surly bonds? Or is it just others' existence you begrudge?

Productive humans are not the problem. Those who put pressure on our planet are the useless people who sit in the village drinking all day, waiting for the next aid truck to pull in and for their many children to return from their daily poaching/tree-chopping excursions. The white rat syndrome, you know? As the population increases, more and more rejects surface....

the massive government corruption does not help in Kenya either. everyone knows that Mkuki is the center for ivory poaching and smuggling but the local political honcho is involved ie. bribed

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Originally posted by David Hulme:

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Originally posted by Wismon:

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by Milo Shanghai:
I agree that the retention of hunting would have been beneficial. But the real problem in Kenya has been and will continue to be, population explosion.

At independence there we under 9 million people in Kenya. Now there are 40 million.

The do-gooders save them all. And then when the famine comes the do-gooders will be in high gear.

Well if humans are such a problem here on Earth what specifically is preventing the two of you from leading by example and slipping it's surly bonds? Or is it just others' existence you begrudge?

Productive humans are not the problem. Those who put pressure on our planet are the useless people who sit in the village drinking all day, waiting for the next aid truck to pull in and for their many children to return from their daily poaching/tree-chopping excursions. The white rat syndrome, you know? As the population increases, more and more rejects surface....

Various faulty, faggy, United Nations 1970’s-esh “spaceship earth” doom-and-gloom predictions notwithstanding, in free countries people are net economic assets, not liabilities. Indeed, they have to be: their choice is to create wealth (read “work”), or starve. Or, as Thomas Sowell put it, name one country who’s GDP has increased while its population decreased. A free country, of course, is one with property rights and rule of law and without socialism or other forms of government “redistribution” (read, “theft”) of wealth.

It is only in welfare states of various stripes where people become a net economic drain but in such places the problem isn’t the people, per se, rather it’s the kleptocratic government.

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Various faulty, faggy, United Nations 1970’s-esh “spaceship earth” doom-and-gloom predictions

And doesn't all this owe it's self to the French Revolution philosophers? Another great example of them screwing up things over 200 years ofter the fact.

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Well if humans are such a problem here on Earth what specifically is preventing the two of you from leading by example and slipping it's surly bonds? Or is it just others' existence you begrudge?

Because they are "productive assets" while all these Africans are just liabilities! Shit, we should just be able to go over there and kill all the game we want, slip 'em a few bucks out of the kindness of our hearts, and then go home!!
And now it's the fault of all the "French philosophers" who talked about "liberty".
Loved the post wisman!
Peter