Was talking to a friend this morning to give him the name of my importer and he told me raw skins , hides and skulls were no longer being allowed to Canada only finished products. He said its on a gov website. I looked but couldn't find it. Talked to my taxidermist and he heard the same thing. Any truth to this and does anyone have further information?

Although it wouldn't surprise me if this is true I couldn't find anything on border services notices that reflects any changes. Could your friend send you a link to where he got his info?

No raw skins or skulls? That's far more sweeping than just hunting trophies. What constitutes a finished product?

Lots of questions if true.

Call your local office of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. Get it straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...7621043/m/9461030191


This was posted on AR's Canadian Hunting link.

This will devastate the countries taxidermists if this is true. SCI will have to lobby and taxidermists will have to get to their politicians. It will have to be corrected as it is so totally abserd!

From the link that Kathi posted there is a link to another website that quotes in part from a government letter...

"Any skins, Skulls, Horns etc that are NOT fully taxidermied will have to be sent to a CERTIFIED TAXIDERMIST(CFIA APPROVED) to be fully taxidermied before clearance will be issued. "

My read on it is that the owner or other agent cannot collect the raw trophies prior to them being processed and finished by a taxidermist.

quote:

Originally posted by vvreddy:
From the link that Kathi posted there is a link to another website that quotes in part from a government letter...

"Any skins, Skulls, Horns etc that are NOT fully taxidermied will have to be sent to a CERTIFIED TAXIDERMIST(CFIA APPROVED) to be fully taxidermied before clearance will be issued. "

My read on it is that the owner or other agent cannot collect the raw trophies prior to them being processed and finished by a taxidermist.

There are currently only two "Certified Taxidermists" in Canada.


Here is a letter that a friend wrote to his MP regarding the recent decision by the government regarding the importation of hunting trophies to Canada. Please read it and use it as a template to write your MP.

Ted
I am writing as a strong supporter (both financially and at the polls) of the Conservative party of Canada and as a voter within your riding. Recent changes (and apparently very suddenly) in importation rules with regard to international hunting trophies has me quite concerned. For years , hunters travelling internationally would have their big game trophies follow them home in the form of salted hides and associated skull/horns/antlers. The process included complete vet checks from both the international vet and a vet here in Canada upon arrival. Before any trophies left the shipping country they had to go through a complete sanitation process for entry into Canada. If the sanitization process was insufficient when it arrived into Canada, the trophies , upon inspection by Canadian vets/authorities were not released to the hunter. All charges involved were of course at the expense of the international hunter. On top of that the hunter was also obliged to pay GST on the trophy fee charged in the foreign country for each animal imported. These fees for an average trip to Africa , for example, would be in the order of $10,000 to $25,000, depending upon the animals harvested.
Apparently, the new rules for importation from many countries will now require (as of yesterday!!) FULL TAXIDERMY on all animals. I don't believe the consequences of these changes have been fully Evaluated by your government for the following reasons:

- Taxidermy in foreign countries can be anywhere from excellent to downright shoddy - leaving open the possibility of insects and disease to be much worse than treated capes (hides)

- You have now cut out a substantial amount of work for taxidermists in this country , many who rely on animals from foreign countries to "make ends meet".

- This ruling will require ridiculous costs of shipping already taxidermied animals (can you imagine the shipping cost of a fully taxidermied cape buffalo or full mount lion or leopard)
If this ruling was designed to reduce accidental insect and disease importation, I think the government is fooling themselves. I believe the problem could be much worse with already mounted animals. Of course in the back of my mind there is always a suspicion that the naïve anti-hunting lobby has something to do with the new rulings. As you well know CITIES regulations (world wide) control animal importation quotas extremely carefully.
I would very much like to hear your thoughts on these changes and the reasons behind them.

I would like to know why the need for new policies, has there been problems? Like others are saying this could end up creating a problem where there wasn't one in the first place. Hides and horns come in and are quarantined at the airport, vet inspects them, done deal, what could be safer. Typical idiot bureaucrats creating policies where none are needed.

I have two shipments coming in in the next couple months that I will re-route to a taxidermist in the States if needed. Feel bad for my taxidermist and others for the loss of work.

quote:

Originally posted by d.unger:
I would like to know why the need for new policies, has there been problems? Like others are saying this could end up creating a problem where there wasn't one in the first place. Hides and horns come in and are quarantined at the airport, vet inspects them, done deal, what could be safer. Typical idiot bureaucrats creating policies where none are needed.

I have two shipments coming in in the next couple months that I will re-route to a taxidermist in the States if needed. Feel bad for my taxidermist and others for the loss of work.

With CITES animals the U.S. may not be a viable option. I've heard that MPs have had their phones ringing off the hook by some fairly influential hunters and they may be looking at rewording this ruling. It's a good day to call or email your MP. I think rather than looking for alternatives, it's time to fight. We too have a shipment coming from South Africa in a few weeks and I have no intention of it going anywhere but to my regular taxidermist here in Alberta.

quote:

Originally posted by sheephunterab:

quote:

Originally posted by d.unger:
I would like to know why the need for new policies, has there been problems? Like others are saying this could end up creating a problem where there wasn't one in the first place. Hides and horns come in and are quarantined at the airport, vet inspects them, done deal, what could be safer. Typical idiot bureaucrats creating policies where none are needed.

I have two shipments coming in in the next couple months that I will re-route to a taxidermist in the States if needed. Feel bad for my taxidermist and others for the loss of work.

With CITES animals the U.S. may not be a viable option. I've heard that MPs have had their phones ringing off the hook by some fairly influential hunters and they may be looking at rewording this ruling. It's a good day to call or email your MP. I think rather than looking for alternatives, it's time to fight. We too have a shipment coming from South Africa in a few weeks and I have no intention of it going anywhere but to my regular taxidermist here in Alberta.

Agree, as with any issue effecting hunters its all of our responsibility to call and write our MP's/MLA's and put up a fight. This was very poorly thought out policy that hopefully with enough attention will get scrutinized by some higher ups. I'm afraid that with this being a policy that affects such a small percentage of people there will not be a lot of urgency put on any rewording of it.

I don't feel like I have any real clarity on this and what I've heard and read has been unclear and second hand. Will be interesting to see how much truth comes out of this and how much is smoke. Defiantly need to do our own research.

Looking at other options such as having work done in the States is a very viable option (compared to having the work done in Africa) except possibly for cities animals and by no means infers I won't put up a fight, just like to have a plan "B". I've used my taxidermist in Alberta since '88, changing now be like changing family doctor.

What a bunch of brain dead politicos. Doesn't surprise me. Look at the mess USFWP created couple of years ago with CITES import permits. But we fought and they somewhat backed off.
Give them hell up north and dont t let them buffalo you

Sounds like a bit of back pedaling going on already. Hopefully Canadian hunters are vocal about this...it's making a difference.

The latest from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency:

Hello Everyone,

Please note: Due to confusion caused by emails that were distributed on July 8 and July 18, 2013, the CFIA wishes to clarify that there have been no regulatory changes with regards to imports of integumentary tissues as per the Importation of Integumentary Tissue (TAHD-DSAT-IE-2001-1-2).

The updated version of the CFIA policy on the Importation of Integumentary Tissue was published in January, 2013. This updated policy includes clarifications to the preceding version, however, there are no significant changes to import procedures with regard to the import of hunting trophies into Canada. The information included in this notice is for clarification purposes, and does not replace the policy in any way.

-- Imports of hunting trophies and integumentary tissues from countries other than the USA must be visually inspected by the CFIA at the port-of-landing. This includes fully taxidermied articles.

-- Products imported from the USA, do not require visual inspection, but do require a certificate of origin, and/or an SRM permit in the case of bovine sculls from bovines over 30 months of age.

-- As per the "Procedures for Importation of Integumentary Tissues" Section of the policy, Fully tanned hides and skins and professionally prepared taxidermy mounts, horns, and hooves in display form that are free from all feces, blood, dirt, and ectoparasites are eligible to enter Canada without any certification or disinfection. Any items that are found to be soiled are to be refused entry and may either be destroyed, returned to the country of origin or directed to a pre-approved premise for disinfection.

-- Items from countries that are designated as free of diseases of concern of the species of origin (other than the USA) may be released after inspection, with the appropriate zoosanitary certification, if they are found to be free of dirt, blood, feces, soil, etc. An official veterinary certificate from the competent authority is required, that fully describes the products, stating the country of origin and that the country is free of the diseases of concern. Regardless of the species of animal or type of material imported, any item that is found to be dirty or contaminated with blood, soil, vegetable material, straw, hay or manure will not be allowed entry into Canada unless directed to a pre-approved premise for disinfection.

-- Items from countries that are not designated as free of diseases of concern of the species from which they originate must be directed to a pre-approved disinfection facility for distribution after arrival. A copy of the CFIA premise approval certificate must be provided by the importer to the CFIA at the time of importation. The items must be sealed and transported directly from the port-of-landing to the pre-approved disinfection facility, in sealed leak-proof containers, under CFIA supervision. If items arrive without an approval certificate, and no premise has been pre-approved for the shipment, the items may be retained for a maximum of 30 days awaiting premises approval. If no premises approval has been obtained in 30 days, the items will be ordered removed from Canada.

For more detail, please consult the policy directly. Specific questions regarding the policy can be directed to the respective CFIA Area Import Specialist: http://www.inspection.gc.ca/an...382369/1300462438912
We regret any confusion or inconvenience any previous emails may have caused.

Regards,
Desiree
Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Richmond Sub-District Office/
Agence canadienne d'inspection des aliments, Bureau de sous-district Richmond
Animal Health/Santé des animaux
Tel: (604) 666-7042
Fax: (604) 666-6027
Plant Health/Santé des végétaux
Tel: (604) 666-7177
Fax: (604) 666-7170
richmond.insp@inspection.gc.ca

What is it with Canadians?

Has it got something to do with the French?

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
What is it with Canadians?

Has it got something to do with the French?

LOL...not sure our government is any different than any other country....the nanny state is alive and well here though.

OK, so whats changed?
As a hunter that lives in a country that is very dependent on our primary sector to support our economic sustainability I would have no problem in our Ministry of Ag and Fish(MAF) maintaining the intregrity of our borders. I 100% support that approach and as any hunter arriving into New Zealand from overseas will verify you DO NOT attempt to hood wink our MAF inspectors at our ports of entry. MAFs favorite is instant fines for people bringing in fruit in carry ons ,their next is dirty boots (hunting boots) that may have seeds, soils containing zoonomes, vegetative materials etc. 90% of people will get their boots checked and cleaned by MAF. And they have exactly the same approach with animal products.
Tell them what you've got, have a vet cert, CITES, and expect to have your skins taken and treated at your expense before they are forwarded to your taxidermist.
I'm not 100% sure on where NZ fits in with CFIA but in the mean time until you in Canada are 100% certain of exactly what you can or cannot do I will encourage all our clients to, at the very least have there trophy capes tanned in NZ before export to Canada and that's after I've encouraged them to make use of the excellent taxidermy services we can fortunately supply in NZ.
Has anything actually changed TJ? or are the regulations now being enforced more, and they are only regulations right, regulations aren't law

Apparently nothing has changed Gerald and it appears that one office took it upon themselves to create new policy but has since been told they can't do that...it's all very confusing. As far as I know New Zealand is considered one of the safe countries and wasn't impacted anyhow....I think.....

quote:

Originally posted by sheephunterab:
Apparently nothing has changed Gerald and it appears that one office took it upon themselves to create new policy but has since been told they can't do that...it's all very confusing. As far as I know New Zealand is considered one of the safe countries and wasn't impacted anyhow....I think.....

What about countries like Tajikistan/kyrgyzstan? Will we still be able to carry a salted hide and horns in our luggage home?

A question likely best asked of the CFIA.....if the cape is salted and completely dried and the skull perfectly cleaned perhaps. It depends how you interpret the regulations. I'd have a contingency plan to have it shipped to a certified taxidermist upon your arrival if they won't let you through.

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
What is it with Canadians?

they come from Canadia!

quote:

Originally posted by Matt Graham:

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
What is it with Canadians?

they come from Canadia!

At least they are not upside down like some other people

quote:

Originally posted by Matt Graham:

they come from Canadia![/QUOTE]

As a child, young Matt never played nice with other children and would always make fun of those who were different.

Why aren't you out killing buffalo or something mate.

Talked to Dr.Makkar from the CFIA in B.C. this past week and she past this link onto me.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/an...786504/1359039919425

I got the feeling I wasn't the first person to call the Doctor about this matter, she was very short with me and wasn't very helpful with answering questions. Wether out of ignorance or possibly that she just didn't want to bother with me she kept referring me to the website or to call the Calgary CFIA, which would be the port of entry for my trophies. Either way she was a bit grumpy.

To answer my own question about why the change. From what I read, there have been problems with fraudulent disinfection certificates from foreign countries.

This is change for the sake of change and is the kind of BS which creates another step in a process which in turn only creates job security for those making these policies. Typical behaviour of Governments.

That dates back to 2001 though....as far as I've been told there is no change.

quote:

Originally posted by sheephunterab:
That dates back to 2001 though....as far as I've been told there is no change.

I have to call the the Calgary office to get clarity but from what I read on the attached amendment dated Jan 8 2013, my trophies from moz have to go directly to a certified disinfection facility.

That is a change if I'm reading correctly.

I just got an email this AM from my shipper that my trophies are ready ship so I need to get clear on this today. Will let you know what Calgary says.

There is another section that says properly salted and dried is fine...I'll have to find it but ya, best to get the info right from the horse's mouth. I know of several African shipments that have come in to Calgary since January 2013 without incident. There currently is one Calgary taxidermist trying to get certified but no one in CFIA seems to know the process....lol What a gong show.

Good luck gettting the same answer twice from the Calgary office. In my experience, the folks in the Calgary office need both hands, a friend and a flashlight to find their own asses. They are however generally good natured and do try to be helpful.

Dean

Okay, I got the lowdown from the Calgary office. I talked at length with a very nice girl named Miranda who spent some time explaining things. Nice girl but I don't think she has a grasp on whats going on.

In a nutshell this is what she said. Nothing has changed from laws brought into affect in 2001, BUT. Miranda explained that these laws were not being enforced in most jurisdictions. The only change is that the laws are now being enforced. Normally, ( for those of us who clear our own shipments) after everything has been inspected by AG Canada's vet and fees have been paid to border services, we could pick our shipment up from the airport and take our trophies home or to the taxidermist. Not so anymore

Essentially all trophies shipped into Canada from African countries ( and others ) need to go directly, under seal to an approved disinfection facility from the port of entry. Presently in Western Canada there are approved facilities in Edmonton, Winnipeg and Vernon. There are none at present approved in Calgary but there is one Taxidermist going through the approval process at this time. Miranda is calling me back with the names of the facilities that are approved to disinfect.

This applies to all untanned skins, salting and or pickling doesn't count. Skulls that have been boiled and bleached and all finished taxidermy is okay.

I was just told the same thing and it seems this extra processing in Canada will become standard operating procedure. Apparently it's been the law since 2001 but not enforced. From what I gather the hides will have to go to the approved taxidermist for an extra 28 days of processing before they can be released to the owner. Then they can be taken for tanning and taxidermy to the location of your choice. I suspect this will add an extra $1,000-$1500 to the importing process but still a better option than having taxidermy done overseas.

I just spoke with the Calgary taxidermist that is seeking certification and he hopes it will happen very quickly.

OK. I have a crate at YYC customs. Seems it was to be cleared/inspected in the usual ( pre July 22) manner, but there are some bugs in the packing. Apparently the procedure for fumigating has changes in March, so I await word from CFIA as to what to do.
I dunno; never had "bugs" before! I smell a rat! I suspect the inspection standards bar has been raised to produce evidence that the new, stricter anti-hunting regulations adopted in January should be implemented.
I have said before that a change in implementation is a de facto change in policy. And this Is clearly anti-hunting policy!
More later.

Dave-with-a-crate-in-Calgary.
(May be my new aboriginal name!)

quote:

Originally posted by DAL:
And this Is clearly anti-hunting policy!
More later.

Dave-with-a-crate-in-Calgary.
(May be my new aboriginal name!)

When faced with a choice between conspiracy and incompetence, always bet on incompetence. I'll bet that still holds true in this case along with a need to be "Seen to be doing something!" That is a time tested way of generating a good job review in a lot of organizations.

Good luck and thank you for keeping us informeed on what is going on.

Dean

I was forwarded this e-mail, hope it clears up some issues.



Please read my correspondence with CFIA below.

To clear up what everyone is hearing that no regulations have changed... in a way this is true as these regulations were put in on January 8th, 2013. So when you call the CFIA in Ottawa or elsewhere nothing has changed... however they will now be implementing these regulations set out in January. We must abide by the “current policies”. Why they didn’t implement these changes in January is unknown however from this day forward with all the communication regarding this you can be sure they will be watching these shipments more closely.

The only Salted hides and horns which can enter Canada with certification and disinfection and without being transferred to a Certified facility are those which come from Designated areas or Countries and that pass inspection. I have inserted the link of these countries. Please note this list can change daily.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/an...587424/1306649135327

All trophies at this time from South Africa must be fully processed or crated in Plastic or metal containers with 6mm plastic wrap surrounding the trophies. Then they must be transferred directly to a certified facility for disinfection. When importing the shipment must be accompanied by the approval certificate for this facility. If they arrive in wooden containers, these will have to be incinerated at the cost of the client and repackaged into sealable containers approved by the CFIA. This whole procedure is very costly. It is important to have your exporter properly crate as per regulations prior to departure from South Africa.

Please see note :

NOTE : -- Items from countries that are not designated as free of diseases of concern of the species from which they originate must be directed to a pre-approved disinfection facility for distribution after arrival. A copy of the CFIA premise approval certificate must be provided by the importer to the CFIA at the time of importation. The items must be sealed and transported directly from the port-of-landing to the pre-approved disinfection facility, in sealed leak-proof containers, under CFIA supervision. If items arrive without an approval certificate, and no premise has been pre-approved for the shipment, the items may be retained for a maximum of 30 days awaiting premises approval. If no premises approval has been obtained in 30 days, the items will be ordered removed from Canada.



Thank you,

Kim White

Rigel Logistics 306-693-1723



Correspondence between Myself and CFIA : July 26th, 2013

July 25th, 2013



Hello Everyone,



Please note: Due to confusion caused by emails that were distributed on July 8 and July 18, 2013, the CFIA wishes to clarify that there have been no regulatory changes with regards to imports of integumentary tissues as per the Importation of Integumentary Tissue (TAHD-DSAT-IE-2001-1-2).



The updated version of the CFIA policy on the Importation of Integumentary Tissue was published in January, 2013. This updated policy includes clarifications to the preceding version, however, there are no significant changes to import procedures with regard to the import of hunting trophies into Canada. The information included in this notice is for clarification purposes, and does not replace the policy in any way.



-- Imports of hunting trophies and integumentary tissues from countries other than the USA must be visually inspected by the CFIA at the port-of-landing. This includes fully taxidermied articles.



-- Products imported from the USA, do not require visual inspection, but do require a certificate of origin, and/or an SRM permit in the case of bovine sculls from bovines over 30 months of age.



-- As per the "Procedures for Importation of Integumentary Tissues" Section of the policy, Fully tanned hides and skins and professionally prepared taxidermy mounts, horns, and hooves in display form that are free from all feces, blood, dirt, and ectoparasites are eligible to enter Canada without any certification or disinfection. Any items that are found to be soiled are to be refused entry and may either be destroyed, returned to the country of origin or directed to a pre-approved premise for disinfection.



-- Items from countries that are designated as free of diseases of concern of the species of origin (other than the USA) may be released after inspection, with the appropriate zoosanitary certification, if they are found to be free of dirt, blood, feces, soil, etc. An official veterinary certificate from the competent authority is required, that fully describes the products, stating the country of origin and that the country is free of the diseases of concern. Regardless of the species of animal or type of material imported, any item that is found to be dirty or contaminated with blood, soil, vegetable material, straw, hay or manure will not be allowed entry into Canada unless directed to a pre-approved premise for disinfection.



-- Items from countries that are not designated as free of diseases of concern of the species from which they originate must be directed to a pre-approved disinfection facility for distribution after arrival. A copy of the CFIA premise approval certificate must be provided by the importer to the CFIA at the time of importation. The items must be sealed and transported directly from the port-of-landing to the pre-approved disinfection facility, in sealed leak-proof containers, under CFIA supervision. If items arrive without an approval certificate, and no premise has been pre-approved for the shipment, the items may be retained for a maximum of 30 days awaiting premises approval. If no premises approval has been obtained in 30 days, the items will be ordered removed from Canada.



For more detail, please consult the policy directly. Specific questions regarding the policy can be directed to the respective CFIA Area Import Specialist: http://www.inspection.gc.ca/an...382369/1300462438912

We regret any confusion or inconvenience any previous emails may have caused.



Regards,

Desiree CFIA



To follow up ...

Can you please answer one simple question.

Can I import a wooden crate from South Africa that contains a Kudu, Warthog, gemsbok and zebra hides and horns that are only salted without problems as long as they are not soiled etc... ??

Or because South Africa is not Designated as free of disease does it have to be in plastic sealable containers and travel for disinfection no matter what ??

Thank you I will await your response.

Kim White





ORION TAXIDERMY Ltd

The closer you look, the better we look.



1175 Athabasca St E

Moose Jaw, SK Canada

S6H 0N4

Tel: (306) 692-4653

Fax: (306) 692-4669

www.orion-taxidermy.com



Hello Kim,



According to the directive TAHD-DSAT-IE-2001-1-2, hides entering Canada without certification or disinfection must be "fully tanned..." and "horns should be thoroughly cleaned with the bloody sinuses drilled out, cleaned, and disinfected," to qualify for exemption from further restrictions. Essentially, these items should be professionally prepared by a taxidermist to display form, which is obviously beyond freedom from all dirt, feces, blood and ectoparasites, to qualify for exemption. Regulatory action will be taken where these standards are not met (i.e. items will be destroyed, returned to origin, or directed to an approved premises for disinfection). In such a case and where non-leakproof crating is used for shipping to Canada, items will be ordered transferred into leakproof containers for any transport within Canada. Subsequently, the old crating will be disposed of at the importer's expense.



Best regards,



Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Richmond Sub-District Office/





Hello Kim,



Items originating in countries or zones designated by the CFIA as "free of important diseases for the species from which the product is derived," may be certified. An official veterinary certificate produced by the local authority that fully describes the products and states that they originate in that country/zone, or that they were legally imported into that country, is required.



Regards,

Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Richmond Sub-District Office/



The items that can enter with certification are wool, feathers, UNTANNED HIDES and SKINS. These must still be free from feces, dirt, blood and ectoparasites, however.



Regards,



Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Richmond Sub-District Office/





So items from non Designated countries(South Africa) and areas can arrive as long as they are Certified or disinfected ?? Or ?



ORION TAXIDERMY Ltd

The closer you look, the better we look.



1175 Athabasca St E

Moose Jaw, SK Canada

S6H 0N4

Tel: (306) 692-4653

Fax: (306) 692-4669

www.orion-taxidermy.com





Items from countries not designated can enter Canada not in display form, but they will need to be further processed at an approved facility in order to come into compliance. Certification can only be obtained for items originating in designated areas. If items are disinfected and in display form, they are exempt from further restrictions, but they will still be subject to inspection.



Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Richmond Sub-District Office/









orion001002

ORION TAXIDERMY Ltd

The closer you look, the better we look.



1175 Athabasca St E

Moose Jaw, SK Canada

S6H 0N4

Tel: (306) 692-4653

Fax: (306) 692-4669

www.orion-taxidermy.com





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Worldwide trophy Shipping

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quote:

Originally posted by DAL:
OK. I have a crate at YYC customs. Seems it was to be cleared/inspected in the usual ( pre July 22) manner, but there are some bugs in the packing. Apparently the procedure for fumigating has changes in March, so I await word from CFIA as to what to do.
I dunno; never had "bugs" before! I smell a rat! I suspect the inspection standards bar has been raised to produce evidence that the new, stricter anti-hunting regulations adopted in January should be implemented.
I have said before that a change in implementation is a de facto change in policy. And this Is clearly anti-hunting policy!
More later.

Dave-with-a-crate-in-Calgary.
(May be my new aboriginal name!)

DAL, A friend and I had shipments come into Calgary from Zim about a year ago and it was claimed they had bugs. Cost us $800 a piece for fumigating each shipment. Neither of us found one bug in either of our crates.

Whatever they used must have disintegrated all the bugs.

In Aus they fumigate even stuffed animals,
or they did with some birds of mine I imported.

I agree it is likely incompetence, Maki. I meant that the result is anti-hunting, if not the intent.
D.Unger, I have requested another inspection, citing the fact that the first inspector found no live insects. I have asked for proof that Canadian livestock or Canadians are endangered by this shipment.
It is costing about $1500 per crate to have a logistics company handle the fumigation paperwork, re-crating and transportation.
I am pissed! There is no way on God's Earth that this is merely a coincidence that they have found bugs in a crate of mine THIS WEEK!
More tomorrow.

CFIA have cleared to shipment to go to fumigation. NOW customs will dictate how and when the transfers are to be made and documented. After waiting for 3.5 hours for then to show this aft, we learned the had all gone to the Railyard leaving the airport unmanned.
They, too, are in disarray, and Out-of-control, and like CFIA, their regulations and enforcement is anti-hunting.
But the crate hasn't moved, and storage is being charged.

More later.

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
What is it with Canadians?

Has it got something to do with the French?

I hear they sell milk in bags.

That explains a great deal.

Yes, in Canada, you can indeed buy milk in plastic bags!

So the latest from the CFIA is that is pretty well business as usual unless bugs are found or trophies have not been properly dried and boiled and then it has to go to a certified taxidermist for an additional 28 day treatment.

Can you comment on your tv partners supposed draw of the AB438 sheep tag? Seems like his silence is an implication of something wrong. Its strange when him or you don't have something to say!

Sheep shit, sheephunterab,
a) strangely, there are an in explainable increase IN the number of purportedly infected shipments THE WEEK AFTER THE COMMUNICATION,
b) the new, stringent regulations governing the fumigators have driven all but one in western Canada OUT OF BUSINESS!
c) the inspectors have no instructions as to the appropriate fumigation technique required for each shipment,
D) very green officers (5 months on the job) are making these decisions, in the face of no live bugs in the shipment
E) the district Vet is protecting the inspectors by refusing re-inspections, even at the shippers cost.

THE DISTRICT VET ABD THE HEAD CFIA INSPECTOR DID NOT DISAGREE THAT THESE POINTS, TAKEN TOGETHER ARE ESSENTIALLY ANTI-HUNTING.

We are seeing costs in the order of $1500 PER CRATE do deal with this new layer of anti-hunting paperwork.

The fault lies with the clumsy drafting done in the Hull-Ottawa legal departments, all left-leaning and not good enough to work in private practice, and frontline functionaries unwilling to make sensible, fair decisions before their masters.

And the importer pays all the bills and suffers all the sleepless nights. The bureaucrats, administrators and politicians all go home at night without a care in The world.

So,

Good-night,