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Gentleman I have a question how do you feel about the Barnes TSX 416 caliber 400 grain bullet for buffalo? Have you had good experiences with it, bad experiences, bullet failure, or is it the best bullet for Buffalo there is? Any opinions would be greatly appreciated, I was planning on using Swift A-frames for my upcoming buffalo hunt in 2024 but since they're unavailable for now I figured I'd work up a load for the Barnes bullet as a backup plan.
 
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I would pick them over any bullet with lead in it.

Mono hollow points are better than any bullets with lead.

Fir me at least.


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Those 400 gr TSX's will be fine. The 350 TSX might actually be my choice.

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I’ve shot about 20 with them. They work well.

Saeed has shot way more than the rest of us and is firmly in the monometal camp.

I like the A frame as well, but price and availability has pretty much been the TSX.

The big advantage to the a frame is with lead, it’s a shorter bullet. Totally a nonissue with a large cartridge like the Rigby. Can be touchy with some powders in the Remington if you are wedded to maximum velocity-

I like the increase SD from a 400 grain bullet, and it works well even at slower than factory velocity.

As Mark mentioned, if you want more velocity then go with the 350.

I’m kind of conservative and see no need to change, personally.
 
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We call them “ green “ here in Europe
I’m big fan of them
Got away from lead years ago and for better of it
 
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I’ve shot about 20 with them. They work well.

Saeed has shot way more than the rest of us and is firmly in the monometal camp.

I like the A frame as well, but price and availability has pretty much been the TSX.

The big advantage to the a frame is with lead, it’s a shorter bullet. Totally a nonissue with a large cartridge like the Rigby. Can be touchy with some powders in the Remington if you are wedded to maximum velocity-

I like the increase SD from a 400 grain bullet, and it works well even at slower than factory velocity.

As Mark mentioned, if you want more velocity then go with the 350.

I’m kind of conservative and see no need to change, personally.


I'll be shooting them out of a 416 Remington Magnum, but I'm not really worried about speed as long as I can get them over 2,300 FPS I'll be happy!
 
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With a 350 or 400 gr TSX in a 416 for buffalo ... you'll be more than happy with the results.

I've shot several buffalo with the 350 gr TSX at 2700 fps in my Rigby. Hammer of Thor it is!!
 
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Given my extremely minimal experience with Buffalo, having only shot one bull, I would think they would be more than adequate. I used a 400gr Swift A-Frame for a one shot kill from my 416 Rigby. Shot a second time for insurance after it was down, but probably not truly needed. I also carried 400gr Barnes solids, but never needed them. As others have said, they are a long bullet and you would probably do fine with a 350. Above all else, develop a good load and have FUN! Best of luck on your hunt.
 
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I don't like the Barnes and won't use it on buffalo based on one experience. I shoot deer with my .416. I was using 400 grain Barnes, .416 bullets. Forgive me, but I can't sing their praises.

I took a shot at a cull buck, but the biggest bodied South Texas whitetail I've ever killed. I think he field dressed around 170. It was dead broadside at pretty much 100 yards. I shot behind the shoulder intentionally because I was shooting a .416 and this was a meat buck.

The buck dropped at the shot, but I heard a ricochet. The entrance was as intended, behind the shoulder, no major bones, so why the ricochet? The bullet exited out of the top of the shoulder and the bullet had deviated a good 6.5 inches in a whitetail. Killed the whitetail, but I'll never use a Barnes on any dangerous game.
 
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Other than solids. Have had good results with those.
 
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I don't like the Barnes and won't use it on buffalo based on one experience. I shoot deer with my .416. I was using 400 grain Barnes, .416 bullets. Forgive me, but I can't sing their praises.

I took a shot at a cull buck, but the biggest bodied South Texas whitetail I've ever killed. I think he field dressed around 170. It was dead broadside at pretty much 100 yards. I shot behind the shoulder intentionally because I was shooting a .416 and this was a meat buck.

The buck dropped at the shot, but I heard a ricochet. The entrance was as intended, behind the shoulder, no major bones, so why the ricochet? The bullet exited out of the top of the shoulder and the bullet had deviated a good 6.5 inches in a whitetail. Killed the whitetail, but I'll never use a Barnes on any dangerous game.


I have seen many bullets change directions.

But, for reliable penetration, there is nothing to touch the mono metals.


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Maybe, but I'll stick with Swift A Frames for buffalo. I liked the TBBC and Woodleighs as well when they were readily available.
Not so fond of the Nosler Partitions on buffalo either. Fine except on frontal shots or hard quartering shots. But the A Frames have never failed to perform exactly as intended.
 
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Maybe, but I'll stick with Swift A Frames for buffalo. I liked the TBBC and Woodleighs as well when they were readily available.
Not so fond of the Nosler Partitions on buffalo either. Fine except on frontal shots or hard quartering shots. But the A Frames have never failed to perform exactly as intended.


All of these will work.

Especially in calibers normally used for buffalo.

But, from my own experience, I prefer the mono metals above anything else.

At higher velocities, I found Swifts tend to loose the lead from the rear end.

Noslers I would only use if I had no other choice.

TBBC are great.

I have used them in several calibers, and cannot find anything wrong with them.

I have also used the Jensens -not sure they are still being made.

Same construction as the Bear Claws, and work great.

When I have access to the best, I use those.

And monometals ARE the best.`


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