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Without bring back a multi-page thread from almost two years ago, I'd like to give a bit of an update as it concerns me. Briefly, this bunch consisted of a few disgruntled members who proposed to basically take over DSC and reconstitute the club as "they" saw fit. In the process some of them posted here on AR, anonymously of course, making accusations against other members (one of which was me). Their effort was defeated by a vote of the members at the DSC Annual General Meeting and shortly after the club took a bit of action against some of this bunch. Several fact finding depositions were conducted and around a dozen members were identified as being associated with the saveDSC bunch. One of these individuals resigned his membership, I believe two were relieved of their membership thru the process outlined in the DSC Bylaws. No action was taken against the remainder of the identified individuals (although one was given the DSC Outstanding Hunter Achievement Award).
Fast forward until May 2021 and this group issued a "press release" claiming many of the same claims as before. This release was sent to many groups, publications and individuals world wide and the release once again defamed the club, the Executive Director of the DSC Foundation, myself and my wife. Apparently DSC received the release shortly after its publication but I was only made aware of the existence of the document in mid-June by an outfitter friend in South Africa, I learned that DSC was not planning any action so I retained an attorney to garner retractions or proceed with legal remedies. Four individuals were given cease and desist letters, three claimed no knowledge or involvement (though I have proof otherwise)and one retraction letter was issued in September. Unfortunately, I'm sure that the retraction was not sent to all who received the 'press release", but one is a start and we will be addressing the others shortly. The person posting as TxGunny was first in line. One of the others was one of the individuals who added to the original post, Steve Miller, Barbara Crown was involved in writing the press release and Bob Harper (mentioned in the original post). All will be addressed. The latest retraction is copied below...

" September 20, 2021
Contact: Marty Markl
Tel. 817-673-0000
Email: savedallassafariclub@gmail.com
For Immediate Release
RETRACTION REGARDING MARTY MARKL’S MAY 15, 2021 PRESS RELEASE
On May 15, 2021, I, Marty Markl, through my authorship alone, issued a press release entitled “Dallas
Safari Club (DSC) Leadership Center of Complaint Filed with Attorney General of Texas.” At the time when
I issued this press release, I had not conducted an investigation into all of the statements contained
therein concerning Mr. Karl Evans. After being provided documentation by Mr. Evans, I now know, to the
best of my knowledge, that several of the statements about Mr. Evans were not true. I apologize for the
misperception that the May 15, 2021, press release may have created regarding Mr. Evans.
The following statements from the May 15, 2021 press release are not true and I retract them in full:
“Evans traveled the world on DSC funds, filling DSC publications with photos and stories of
himself and his wife in hunting camps, at conferences and posh hotels around the world.”

“It is believed that he and his wife have taken multiple unpaid hunts with DSC grant recipients
over a six- to seven-year period, including multiple elephant hunts (that can be valued from
$50,000 to $100,000 each), all on a journeyman’s income.”

“DSC Past President Karl Evans attacked Markl, Harper and Barnes on the public online Accurate
Arms Reloading Forum, accusing them of being ‘crooks’ and ‘thieves.’”
The following statements from the May 15, 2021 press release are not fully accurate, and I retract them
in part:
“DSC officer Karl Evans converted his volunteer position into a highly paid position for two years
as an ‘interim’ DSC Executive Director while a “search” for an executive director was conducted.”
I mistakenly stated that “Karl Evans converted his volunteer position into a high paid position for
two years.” Based on the evidence I have been provided, Mr. Evans was paid for three and one-
half months, not two years. "



A real POS.


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As someone who has seen the evidence , I am appalled at the outright fabrications made in this press release by the Save DSC group . I am also bothered by DSC doing nothing to stop this kind of nonsense .

Sorry you had to go through this Karl.
 
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The roaches love running amuck when they can do it in the dark but once the light comes on they start scrambling for the cracks. The anonymity of the Internet certainly contributes to the problem. Glad you are giving them hell Karl.


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Karl,

I'm a life member of DSC and I know you as a man of integrity who has given a great deal personally to achieve the goals of DSC. I hate to see any division in the organization and hope it's not the beginnings of what ultimately happened in SCI. That's why I'm a life member of DSC. We don't need that division and anyone who foments it is undermining the cause.

I don't know these miscreants, but that's a bullshit retraction, and not an apology by any means, which I believe is required under the circumstances. Time for somebody to man-up and admit they are wrong. Period.

DSC is a great organization, a hunting community that does a lot of good. And it wouldn't be what it is without Karl's hard work and devotion. I'd urge all of you to join DSC, it has chapters outside of Dallas, and those of you who already belong, I'd urge you support unity in the organization.

Karl,

Give me a call if there is anything I can do to help you or DSC, as that is the same thing.
 
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Karl

Glad you are fighting it.

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Put a PI on these bozos. I've found amazing stuff on folks that no one wants to come to light. Then they just go away.
 
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Originally posted by larryshores:
As someone who has seen the evidence , I am appalled at the outright fabrications made in this press release by the Save DSC group . I am also bothered by DSC doing nothing to stop this kind of nonsense .

Sorry you had to go through this Karl.


Karl and his wife are wonderful people. However, I can’t say as
Much about the accusers.


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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The accusers were a bunch of utterly stupid, self serving IDIOTS.

I have known Karl now for a number of years.

He is a man of class and integrity, and I am proud to call him my friend.


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Don’t get me wrong , this is bad. Really bad. Unfortunately, this is not all.

The Save DSC group had another run at DSC previously. The rumored amount of legal fees to deal with this is staggering . If true, all members ought to collectively sue the members of the Save DSC group for the damage they have caused.
 
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I'm liking the PI suggestion. With this level of behavior there is dirt to be mined and used.
 
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I am humbled by the support shown by my AR friends, on here and privately. I've met and made some really good friends on here and I want to make sure all know that I didn't start this post to serve myself, just wanted to give an update. My wife and I decided it was time someone did something about what was going on and hopefully bring it to an end. Thanks!


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I have been with DSC since '94. I have seen firsthand their growth and their success. The potential of turning into the likes of SCI and NRA is almost inevitable with this kind of success and growth. These challenges are going to happen.

I have watched DSC fight against becoming this kind of organization. Its these kinds of people who will ruin this club.

I know a few of the people mentioned above. I can say I am not surprised to see certain names on that list. Have also met Karl a couple times and can say without hesitation that he is the polar opposite of above mentioned snakes.

Keep up the good fight Karl.
 
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I will relay a war story.

I barely knew Karl & Rebecca when we made what I think was our second trip to DSC. We went into some room some where for reasons that escape me now. There were two and only two DSC volunteers in that room. Both working their behinds off. Guess who those two were? Karl & Rebecca.

They have done a hell of a lot for DSC. I am very bothered that DSC did nothing at all to put an end to this. In fact, some of their actions may have even encouraged the dissidents.
 
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I will relay a war story.

I barely knew Karl & Rebecca when we made what I think was our second trip to DSC. We went into some room some where for reasons that escape me now. There were two and only two DSC volunteers in that room. Both working their behinds off. Guess who those two were? Karl & Rebecca.

They have done a hell of a lot for DSC. I am very bothered that DSC did nothing at all to put an end to this. In fact, some of their actions may have even encouraged the dissidents.


It does harken back to the WLP/NRA thread. I recall you saying no way in hell would you want to be one of the 75 (or whatever ridiculous number) directors. I don’t know if there is any indemnification or insurance provided to directors and officers for any of these groups.

If not, that’s a hefty burden for faithful volunteers like Karl and Rebecca who give their all for an organization they believe in so much.


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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This is an affront to decency. DSC leadership should be leading this fight, not sitting idly by on the sidelines.

These people should be outed and ousted.


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I wish Karl Evans and his wife the best. As Duke Wayne said, “Don’t let the bastards get you down.”

I will add, “And Do not let the bastards get over either.”

I hate to see DSC being torn by these people when we need a strong, organized presents.

Sadly, organized hunting seems to attract those who want hunting and the organization to be about them instead of habit, fair chase, animals, places, and people.
 
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Giv’em hell Karl.

Karl has gone out of his way to help me a couple of times…unsolicited. He is just good folks. Good will triumph over evil in this situation.


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Karl,

DCS raises an interesting issue. Almost every non-profit carries Directors & Officers (D&O in the insurance parlance) coverage in the event their directors or officers are sued for a "wrongful act" which is very broadly defined in these policies.
The D&O policy generally provides for a defense, but they are usually claims made policies that must be reported to the insurance company "as soon as practicable" and they only cover claims "first made" during the policy period". These rules are very rigid, so you should probably report it ASAP.

Karl, Feel free to give me a call if you'd like to discuss, but again, time is of the essence on the potential for insurance coverage. Also, most entities indemnify their directors so hopefully that is occurring as well.

This isn't legal advice, just recommend that you do consult with counsel.
 
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Karl,

DCS raises an interesting issue. Almost every non-profit carries Directors & Officers (D&O in the insurance parlance) coverage in the event their directors or officers are sued for a "wrongful act" which is very broadly defined in these policies. If they don’t, they should .
The D&O policy generally provides for a defense, but they are usually claims made policies that must be reported to the insurance company "as soon as practicable" and they only cover claims "first made" during the policy period". These rules are very rigid, so you should probably report it ASAP.

Karl, Feel free to give me a call if you'd like to discuss, but again, time is of the essence on the potential for insurance coverage. Also, most entities indemnify their directors so hopefully that is occurring as well.

This isn't legal advice, just recommend that you do consult with counsel.


I agree with you . However , since he wasn’t sued, I wonder about the D&O coverage if any. It is customary for there to be indemnification in such matters . No idea if DSC has such a policy in place. If they don’t, they should as should all organizations with volunteers .
 
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To paraphrase a cartoon quote- “we have seen the enemy and it is us”. Oft times we are indeed our own worst enemy. Give em hell, Karl tu2


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lavaca, sent you a PM.


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I still like the PI idea and I've got a great network of them. All ex-law enforcement, both federal and local.

My daughter had a bad boy friend and I told him to leave town. He didn't. PI's got him six years in prison and she forgot about him in that time.
 
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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
I have been with DSC since '94. I have seen firsthand their growth and their success. The potential of turning into the likes of SCI and NRA is almost inevitable with this kind of success and growth. These challenges are going to happen.



I am a newbie to the hunting/safari organization world. I understand all too well what you are saying about the NRA as I have reported on it in my blog. I am probably a persona non grata in Fairfax even though it has been directors giving me the scoop.

Could you explain what you mean about turning into the likes of SCI? I'm not trying to put you on the spot but I am truly ignorant about SCI, their growth, and the politics involved.


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DSC does not have to turn into an SCI or the NRA sort of corrupt organization.

As long as we have decent individuals who are members of the running, and they have the courage to stand up to any stupid shenanigan's like the idiots behind SAVE DSC, we should be fine.


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