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When I head to Zim in a couple of months...my agent recommeded I fly Dallas to JFK overnight and take the morning flight from JFK to Jo'berg so that I could check my rifles straight thru to Vic Falls (Delta/then SAA). She says there is a provision allowing for rifles overnighting in NYC. Anyone ever done that??? Have any words of wisdom? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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I'm no lawyer, but I would avoid overnighting in NY or NJ. Have read about several horror stories of innocent gun owners being prosecuted by both these jurisdictions when staying overnight. You might want to give the NY port authority police a call to see what they have to say. They are the ones who will be handling your check in with guns at JFK. I've flown out of JFK to Africa several times. Never had any problems. Since I live in PA I drove to JFK in the AM of my flight and never stayed overnight in NY. When you check in with firearms at JFK, the port authority police are called and an officer comes and verifies that your guns are unloaded and walks with you to TSA where you check in your guns. On the way back, you just go through US customs. There was a case several years ago where a guy was traveling with a handgun in checked luggage (legally declared) and his flight was late arriving in NY causing him to miss his connecting flight to his final destination. He had to overnight in NY and catch a flight the next AM. Upon checking in the next day he was arrested for having the handgun in NY. I know there is a big difference between a long gun and a handgun in the eyes of the anti gun NY politicians, but I wouldn't take the chance. I would look to make my connection through Atlanta or Dulles (the airport is in Virginia). I haven't check recently, but SAA did have flights leaving Dulles early in the AM to JFK where you then boarded the flight to Joberg. Tom Z NRA Life Member | |||
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ledvm - Curious, why travel from Dallas to JFK and not to Atlanta - JNB? You are traveling pretty far north only to turn around and fly south. Furthermore, by traveling to Atlanta you don't need to overnight. Flight 200 departs ATL at 8:30pm. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Ledvm, When I went to Namibia in 2010, we flew into JFK, overnighted and took the AM flight to Jo'berg. We had no problems with our rifles. No one asked anything upon arrival and I think we picked up our rifles on the regular luggage carousel. When we were checking our luggage the next morning, the airline did call the Port Authority police and they looked at our firearms and ID, made some notations in a notebook and off to the TSA screening we went. Was not a problem. Not sure if things have changed though. I WOULD NOT under ANY circumstances fly into JFK with a handgun though. | |||
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Yes, I did and had no problems. Carried them with me to the hotel on a shuttle and back again. As long as it is 24 hours or less, I believe the rule to be, and we were on a morning flight out to Joberg. Dutch | |||
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Your experience will likely hinge on the mood and political disposition of the particular gov employee you will encounter in NY during your transit. Good luck with that. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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I have flown through JFK to Africa several times with firearms. There is a service in the terminal that will secure your firearms and other valuables for a fee. I have used it and seem to remember it was around fifty dollars for a twenty-four hour period. Have not used it for a few years know so cannot be sure of the current details. | |||
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I also spent one night when flying through JFK and there was no issue with the firearms, took them to the hotel with us and checked them in again the next morning. Should be fine. | |||
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Something about making the connections work to check rifles thru straight to Vic falls and arrive at Vic Falls at the correct time. Coming back Byo via Atlanta. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Thanks all! My agent is an old hand at this and she says no problem. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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As long as you don't claim your luggage, you should be OK. NY terminals will notify terminal police anytime luggage with firearms is removed from the premises. If the luggage remains under control of the airport, it should not be a problem. | |||
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In 2012, we flew to JFK and I took my Tuffpac and backpack to my hotel with me and then back to JFK the next morning. NRA Life Benefactor Member, DRSS, DWWC, Whittington Center,Android Reloading Ballistics App at http://www.xplat.net/ | |||
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Never had any problem with rifles in a locked case while in nyc. Six times there when traveling to Africa, no problems. Always stay at hotels near the airport. | |||
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Lane, Leaving guns at the airport would be the best. Taking guns to a local hotel/motel would be okay. Don't go into Manhattan - crossing one of the bridges with a chance random stop or accident or anything. If the NYPD find you have a firearm most certainly will have a visit to a local police station. NYPD is not very practical when they come to guns. Mike | |||
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May be just me, but I would never take a firearm outside the airport at JFK. I will never come back into the USA with firearms though JFK again after the hassle and problems I had last year. | |||
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Larry, Can you please refresh my memory or PM me? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The climate in NYC right now is quite tenuous with the recent murder of two police officers. I would expect a knee jerk reaction regardless of your race or ethnic origin. I do not believe the risk is worth it, but it is your choice to make. (I was born and raised in Brooklyn). | |||
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Wear a burnoose and turban. You'll be waved right through.  For non-resident travelers, bolt-action rifles are not usually a problem; autoloaders must have a capacity of five rounds or less. A pair of "Barney Fifes" will come along to question you, so do not admit to having overnighted with the guns. You may not take possession of Handguns in NY state unless you have a permit (or special permission). George  | |||
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