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Someone is talking serious BS. Anybody coming over in the next couple days had better bring some warm clothing. You can still see some blue sky, flashes between the fast scudding clouds. Forecasts are for snow on the high ground and lots of rain. I am going to have find some long pants.  | ||
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The term "Global Warming" has pretty much been rejected in favor of "Global Climate Change" which is a bit broader and more accurate in that, while the overall trend is of warming, the disruption of global air circulatory patterns (Graphic) and global ocean current patterns (Graphic) is resulting in some regions experiencing much colder climactic episodes. | |||
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Steve you have made a great point with simple facts and no BS! We as hunters need to acknowledge the detrimental effect on the environment that human commercial activity has had. The Industrial revolution and subsequent explosion of population has had this effect on the whole world. Huge tracts of prime forests have been brought under the plogh and chain saw / bulldozer in all continents inhabited by humans. I am currently reading a biography of Jim Corbet called "Carpet Sahib" and the author shows in his research the extent of prime tiger habitat in the himalayan foothills that were cut for the railways in northern and central India in the mid to late 1800s and early 1900s. Today a very small part of that forest belt remains and very few tigers. Higher up the himalayas from 3000 to 10000 feet elevation, a lot of the native oak, ash and similar jungles have been replaced by commercial pitch pine plantation and that has again removed much of the native wildlife. Higher up, soil errotion has become such a BIG issue that every few years the Ganges and Bhramputra rivers' delta in the Bay of Bengal produces new islands formed by silt from the himalayas. Even higher up, the snow line is going up and glaciers are melting at an alarming rate .... Irrespective of one's political affiliations, these are sad realities of what is happening around us! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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you managed to roll about 3 different things into one post Yes humans can effect a given eco-system no there is NO factual evidence for Man Made climate change I believe that if you look at the historical record the Ganges has been forming a delta with silt deposition for thousands of years. SSR | |||
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I'm starting to think that all the hot air about global warming may actually start to cause it. Caleb | |||
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Interesting that you point out supposed conflicting statments, yet your own statments conflict to some degree. In contrast to your statment, you seriously think there is NO Man Made impact on climate change? Do we just bury our head in the sand and think that we as a society (Globally or othewise) have little or no impact on our environment or effect climate..........there is a cost to everything and to think not is foolishness...there is a balance long forgotten by so called conservatives.... | |||
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Is this not the African Big Game Hunting forum? ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, duke of York ". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand Cogito ergo venor- KPete “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” ― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations” | |||
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Cross L, let us get some PERSPECTIVE. Yes the Ganges has been forming islands in the delta for thousands of years. But more islands have been formed in the last 30 years than for many centuries earlier! Look at the SPEED & SCALE of errosion in the himalayas in the last 50 years. Is it not man made? Is it not directly related to the deforestation of thousands of square miles of the earth's younges and most brittle mountain range? Who are the lobby groups arguing against such finings? Yes - big business oil, timber and mining companies. Let us look at Africa. We have all see references on AR to the evils of Chinese mining copanies plundreing the environment. Is that true or not? Is it ONLY the Chinese who plunder the environment? Was the Gulf oil spill man made or not? "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Geez, all I wanted to do was warn folk that it is pretty chilly here at the moment. 'kin 'ell!  | |||
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no good deed goes unpunished, Scriptus ___________________________________________________________________________________ Give me the simple life; an AK-47, a good guard dog and a nymphomaniac who owns a liquor store. | |||
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What does any of that have to do with either Global warming or Man made climate change?- which are not the same by the way. Focus focus Erosion we can mediate-climate we cannot. and no one has yet shown that we can effect climate either. SSR | |||
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one question: How many hundreds of thousands of years ago did the last great ice age end?? The freaking planet has been warming ever since the end of the ice age!!!!!! nothing new just a new way to distract the american people from what the scumbags in washington are doing. the only thing washington politicians ever got right was keeping the people fighting among themselves so the assholes in washington can keep there jobs and screw up the country without being bothered by the people. KICK UM ALL OUT IN NOV.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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Take it to the political forum... Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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That must be why I am freezing my butt off right now.  | |||
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Scriptus, This is AR where you can have a heated mulit page argument argument over which is a more effective killer on game. A .416 Rigby a .416 Remington or a .416 Ruger which all fire the exact same bullet, construction, brand and weight at exactly the same velocity.  How could you possibly think that any post isn't going to dissected and torn apart here? Now for the fan boys amongst us. What is the best cold weather African hunting gear available? | |||
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Man made for sure, but not the way most beleive. It is Al Gore. His increasing size and girth has (1) created a caldera-sized source of volcanic carbon dioxide emissions from one end, and methane eruptions from the other, and (2) created his own planet-like gravitational field, which is actually pulling the sun closer to us! SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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A ph#@ken big fire. Jim Manion; Posted 10 June 2012 04:44 Hide Post Man made for sure, but not the way most beleive. It is Al Gore. His increasing size and girth has (1) created a caldera-sized source of volcanic carbon dioxide emissions from one end, and methane eruptions from the other, and (2) created his own planet-like gravitational field, which is actually pulling the sun closer to us! Good old Boring Al, making money spouting horse wallop and scaring the crap out of dimwit soy bean munchers.  | |||
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