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My buddy invited me to go to Africa with him this August. This will most likely be my only trip to Africa. Has anyone ever hunted with Kuvhima Safaris? I did a search and didn't find much info. NRA Life Member | ||
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I don't know anything about them personally, but I would not hunt with them. I just spent a few minutes on their website. Their trophy prices are significantly higher than a number of good operators in RSA. Their prices seem to be 20% to 200% more than many that I know. Just based on that I would look elsewhere. Look at their prices for kudu with the sliding scale. Top end is out of line. Browse through the hunts offered here to compare some of their prices..... Bruce | |||
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I agree with G., those prices not only are high but are among the highest I've seen; some the highest. If you buddy is paying as a gift to you, have a good trip. But if one or both of you is on a budget, look around. You can easily cut the costs in half. I will be hunting plains game in Botswana this July and six good animals for $4500 is the price. PM me and I will give you the details. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I've never hunted with them, but they have displayed at our banquet and donated to our Alaska Chapter of SCI for years. They seem to be reputable. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I refuse to hunt with any outfitter offering animals on a sliding scale price. Look elsewhere. | |||
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I don’t know anything about this outfit. With the high trophy fees, it sounds like a donation hunt I bought for “peanuts” years ago. I think I paid $1,500 for 4 hunters for 7-10 days, daily rates included. The trophy fees were much more than market. My buddies couldn’t bite on it because of the high fees even though I said they just had to get there. The trophy fees turned them off.I ended up just eating the cost and hope it helped the local SCI chapter. I understand this pricing/marketing strategy for donation hunts. However, I don’t see a “regular” hunter buying a hunt with such high trophy fees. It would be interesting to hear what other outfitters think. I appreciate how Andrew Baldry prices many of his hunts that are based upon success. Others do also. I suppose business is business. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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That is why I have not hunted Europe. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Europe, New Zealand and other places too. Bloody hell, imagine you are trying to shoot a kudu, and your professional hunter is standing next to you with a pair of binoculars and a price list in his hands. He looks at the ear tags, and says "See those four kudus? The one on the left is $4250, next one $2000, third one is $5430, and the last one is $3800. I have their pet names here too if you wish to put that on your trophy after it is mounted. And if you shoot the third one, that is for $5430, we can give you an impala for free. But, sadly, for these very low prices, we do not have a well known professional hunter to remove the ear tags, but I will be happy to do it for you. Free of charge of course!"  | |||
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Yep, This gentleman needs to check the value of the Rand... I think those are literally the highest prices I've ever seen. I shot 8 Kudu last year in Botswana...4 over 53/54 to 56 and 4 cull broken horned bulls (all old) over 52.. for a fraction of that... I can't imagine paying that much to shoot Kudu..Eland..etc | |||
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I will take your shots, Saeed, as you are getting a reputation on the political forum for banning those you don't like. Cheers, Cal PS. I hear the pope is in your neck of the woods. Did you guys chat any? _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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My cats are priced on success as so are others in Zambia. The only time I have come across the sliding scale price is on a high fence facility which indicates the shooting of select animals and not hunting as such. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Sir, I appreciate your method. I hope I will hunt with you one of these days. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Thanks, guys. My buddy "won" the hunt for 2 people. There are no daily fees and we each have a $1500 credit toward trophy fees. So, I can go to Africa, shoot a couple of animals, and it will cost me nothing more than a plane ticket. NRA Life Member | |||
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BUFAF: Replied to your PM It's easy to give free daily rate with trophy fees 2-3x normal. $1500 credit is only 1/3 of their kudu fee. Even with the credit and no daily rate you will still be spending more than on other hunts. And, I guarantee you and you buddy will be presured to shoot as many animals as possible. Good luck in whatever you do. cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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This business of charging by the inch is ridiculous and I wish every Hunter out there will refuse to pay by the inch. Maybe over time Outfitters and Landowners will then come to their senses and start focusing on providing hunting instead of shooting experiences to Hunters. And as regard these so-called "bargains" that are picked up at banquets and fund raisers: A chap approached me at a show in Montana a couple of weeks ago and showed me this tremendous "bargain" him and his friends picked up at a fund raiser... When I checked out the fine print with him it turned out hardly anything was a "bargain". $400 per person (not per vehicle) for airport transfers... ONE WAY! And a $15,000 deposit that was required towards trophy fees just to start out with. And then, based on the price list of this particular Outfit, $15,000 would (maybe) buy three of them a Kudu bull each... It wouldn't surprise me if clients would be charged for the toilet paper they'd need to wipe their behinds (although this wasn't stipulated in the "contract"! Regards, Chris Troskie Tel. +27 82 859-0771 email. chris@ct-safaris.com Sabrisa Ranch Ellisras RSA www.ct-safaris.com https://youtu.be/4usXceRdkH4 | |||
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I bought a hunt with KUVHIMA at our San Diego SCI Event. Paid $9800 for my wife and I on a 10 day hunt. Received 10-20 percent discount on trophy fees and if my memory serves me about $10,000 in credit for air fare and trophies. Seemed to all pencil out in the end and had a great time with our PH Jon Lu. Took a sable gemsbok Blesbok and caracal. This was my first safari in South Africa after hunting Zimbabwe and Botswana. Credits paid for the sable. Listed in the African Hunting Gazzette as “visited and verified” for what that means. Hauled us to and from camp for free and took my wife to a game park. We had a low key enjoyable safari. Fun but I much prefer hunting Zimbabwe with my PH friend Andy Hunter. | |||
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Read this above post ^^^^^^ This is they type (Chris Troskie) of Outfitter I would look at! These sliding scales and "won" hunts rarely turn out well. | |||
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Their trophy fees are roughly DOUBLE what I’m used to paying in Namibia, with the exception of Impala and Springbok, which are both reasonable at $600. Jesus saves, but Moses invests | |||
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The deal breaker is their escalating trophy fees. This is actually nothing short of just plain disgusting! I suppose they are catering for the low cost SCI INNER CIRCLES clients. The really high paying ones employ unscrupulous South African outfitters to buy animals from farmers at escalated prices to satisfy their hunger to have their names in the record book! It boggles the minds! | |||
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Agreed 100% On a side note, most every operator I have come across that is on a sliding scale "charge per inch" basis is selling animals that have been specifically targeted, captured, sold at auction and relocated and released onto a property that cannot sustain a free ranging population big enough to fill their annual requirements. While I have no interest in this particular situation, i dare say that you will get a better experience with an operator whether fenced or not that is not working on this basis. There are several great free range hunts offered in SA and surrounding areas. There are also great fair chase hunts on fenced reserves that have a self sustaining population. There is no such thing as a free hunt, somewhere you will be paying the difference and with trophy fees like those, I imagine you will be pressured at every turn to shoot everything that moves. This inevitably ends up being a very uncomfortable situation to be in. Good luck, but beware! Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Those are sonme stiff trophy fees: Kudu $2,950 - $4,950 Gemsbok $1,600 Springbok $1,000 I'm going to Namibia in April and we're hunting for 6 days, for: Trophy Kudu (no size limit and the outfitter says to expect 50"-54" Trophy Gemsbok Trophy Springbok Plus: four cull Gemsbok, three cull Springbok, And as many baboons, jackals and hares as we want to shoot. Hunting 2x1 for $3,500. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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