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Does the 318 WR have a place in Africa anymore (or anyplace else)?
07 February 2012, 20:05
jsl3170Does the 318 WR have a place in Africa anymore (or anyplace else)?
Gents:
Will be getting onboard the LH Zastava buy here in the last couple days before the deadline arrives for a rifle. Have considered the 7x57, the 3006 and the 318 WR. Does the latter have a place anymore or has time passed it by? I plan to replace the barrel and hardware first with a LW 5130 pattern barrel before moving on to the stock.
Thanks for the input.
Jeff
07 February 2012, 20:22
HuviusAge old question.
I would love a 318 but that is knowing full well that sourcing bullets can be problematic.
That is the only downside. There is no problem at all with the 318 otherwise and it really should have never been supplanted with more modern cartridges which promise more but deliver less.
Depends wholly on whether you feel the nostalgia outweighs the hassle.
07 February 2012, 20:41
Bryan Chickdoes'nt woodleigh make these bullets?
07 February 2012, 20:53
Bwana Moja318 is old school...go with 338.
07 February 2012, 21:06
Hollis PerkinsThe .318 may be old school, but it's newer than your other two choices. If you want to hunt with a classic cartridge, with a ton of African history, go with the .318. Otherwise, there are a lot of newer cartridges that will do pretty much the same thing.
07 February 2012, 21:11
GeorgeSIf nostalgia is your goal, go with the .318WR but obtain a large supply of brass, and monolithic softs and solids. You're going to need them if you ever decide to sell the rifle.
If nostalgia is not a factor, the .338-06 and .35 Whelen might work for you.
George
07 February 2012, 21:37
BwanamichThe .318 WR is my dream rifle, if anything else, just for the nostalgia factor. Plus it is just sexy
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07 February 2012, 23:57
makiThere certainly is room for the .318 WR, and not just for nostalgia. I wussed out and went with a .338-06 instead of fussing with the bullets needed for a .318. Never regretted using a cartridge with that level of performance. If you do end up with a .318 or one of its ballistic twins, watch out for overpenetration.
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08 February 2012, 01:36
Tim CarneyFrench friend and I meet in Namibia in early August to hunt. He invariably brings a .318 Westley Richard bolt action rifle (they did make them as a double, too). He uses, I believe, Kynamco ammunition as he does not reload.
Must say he can shoot with it, as any number of gemsbok can attest. Having cycled the action, I can confirm it is as smooth as, mayber smoother than, my Dakota 76 that has had some serious gunsmiths working on it. Looks as good as it handles, too.
Regards, Tim
08 February 2012, 02:12
Michael RobinsonI'm far more practical than nostalgic about such things, but even I would someday like to own a .318 Westley Richards.
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08 February 2012, 02:15
Code4Yes, Woodleigh make 250 grain RNSP and FMJ projectiles. Lothar Walther make barrels.
There are no flys on the .318WR.
08 February 2012, 08:58
NitroXAs said Woodleigh makes 250 gr FMJ and Weldcores of premium quality.
Bertram also make 180 gr and 250 gr projectiles of cheaper design.
Bertram also makes brass of the correct headstamp. .30-06 brass can be modified to use.
GS also makes HV projectiles in .330 for the .318.
08 February 2012, 09:15
AfricanHunterIn the day of yesterday I had some .318's including a WR DR double. It's just as effective as a 100+ years ago, it's just that there are easier ways to get there today as there was back in the '70's when I had them, so I sold them and moved on, but I sure liked that cartridge. Better components today than then, so if you like it, don't back away.
09 February 2012, 03:03
DoubleDonA year ago I purchassed a WR .318 droplock
. Purchassed dies, Woodleigh bullets, 40 pcs. of Bertram brass and 100 pcs. Rem. .35 Whelen brass (bulk and cheep). Full length size the .35 Whelen brass, trim to length and bang away. When I take the gun to Zim. I'll use the properly headstamped Bertram brass.
Deo Vindice,
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09 February 2012, 07:17
BiebsDon, nice piece!
09 February 2012, 07:53
N E 450 No2Nothing wrong with a .318WR in an original rifle.
However, in a new rifle a 30/06 with 220gr bullets, or a 338/06 with 250gr bullets is ballistically equal.
Truth is a 9,3x62, with 286gr bullets just might be best of all, IMHO of course.
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09 February 2012, 10:58
NitroXLots of "modern" cartridges are merely counterfeits of the older original ones which kill just as well as they did a hundred years ago. Maybe even better so, as the .318 WR was a known and respected buffalo killer yet today we all need a minimum of a .375 ...
.... or maybe they could shoot better back then as well.
09 February 2012, 18:41
fujotupuNitroX:
Too true!
09 February 2012, 19:23
Bill/OregonI would almost bet that if enough folks whispered in the ears of North fork and/or CEB, wonderful things would happen for .318 shooters. Talk about penetration!
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09 February 2012, 19:43
jsl3170out of curiosity, how would you guys set one up? i am ordering my LH Zastava mauser today in 3006 and would be interested to acquire components as I already have a good piece of walnut.
is rusty marlin still producing diopters?
09 February 2012, 19:55
Bill/OregonJSL, the one in the picture that Mike linked to would be my ideal -- ready to accept a scope, and with the bolt head peep.
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10 February 2012, 05:01
L. David KeithA client of mine has a WR and a C & H in 318. He's be reloading without any problem
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10 February 2012, 09:42
lee440I used my Vickers .318 Express on plains game a few years ago, Woodleigh 250 softs at 2450. On my Zebra, there was not much expansion on broadside shots at 50 to 125 yds. Pass thru's with dime sized exits on three shots. But one shot performance on Hartebeest and Impala. I love the .318 and am building a custom on the lines of the Heym "Martini".
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13 February 2012, 05:09
Bwana NderoboI'm having a 318 built for me as soon as I have the damned money. We handloaded my buddy's 338 down to 2400 fps with 250's and the performance was awesome. 318 screams Africa to me!
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