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HI,

Here I go again, but I am just trying to learn more on the subject.I am not trying to say one is better or worst,just want to learn more.I am wondering what a 416 Taylor will do with a 24 inch barrel and a 350 grain bullet fps as it also will go into a shorter action. I am just trying to learn more on different rounds, and the ones I have mention I do not know much about them,thank you for putting up with my ignorance,thanks,Kev

 
Posts: 1002 | Location: ALASKA, USA | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Kev,
An excellent reference is Cartridges of the World, 9th Edition. It is widely available and contains drawings, descriptions, and even load data for over 1,000 cartridges including obsolete and wildcat cartridges.

George

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Posts: 14623 | Location: San Antonio, TX | Registered: 22 May 2001Reply With Quote
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kev,
My 416 Taylor is a Ruger 77 Mark II stainless with a 26" Shilen stainless 1 in 14" twist, #4 contour sporter barrel, in a Hogue "Overmolded" stock, with Dakota express sights. This is a very effective rifle, in ballistics and cost. Sweet deal.

Safe and accurate velocities with this 26" barreled gun:
400 grainers ... 2400 fps
350 grainers ... 2550 fps
300 grainers ... 2700 fps

In a 24" barrel one would expect:
400 grainers ... 2350 fps
350 grainers ... 2500 fps
300 grainers ... 2650 fps

This equals the standard 404 Jeffery ballistics. It beats the standard 375 H&H ballistics. It is more than enough for anything in the world. Darn good sheep rifle too!

The Ruger 77 Mark II is the best "short magnum" action in the world. Those who disagree can osculate my derriere! I have made this offer about three times in approximately the last 2 years and have had no serious takers yet.


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I will have to pass on that offer Dagga my man, not a pretty sight I bet. probably heinous.

I believe the 416 Taylor and the 375 Chatfield Taylor will equal their counterparts the 416 Rem and the 375 H&H and I used them both for a short time. I could tell no difference...

That said, I finally returned to the 375 H&H and 416 Remington as the better choice..My reasoning being availability of factory ammo, a bit more power, properly marked cases, I have always liked the slopeing torpedo like cases of the Rem and H&H for their ability to feed easily, no case modification necessary, ammo availability in Africa should I get seperated from my luggage containing my ammo and last but not least I can detect no difference in that 1/4" difference in bolt thow....

People that short throw a magnum action cannot chew gum and walk IMHO.

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Also check this siter out occasionally, it is down for maintenance now but our ole pal BW has a dandy site!

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As a side note....Didn't Ross Seyfried use a Taylor in a lightweight Dakota Rifle as a back-up gun? Seems like I read that a year or two ago in RIFLE or HANDLOADER magazine.

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Ray,
I can't find anything to argue about. You are right on all counts there.

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I believe you are correct. But Ross also used a seven pound 416 Remington on a Rem. 700 with fiberglass stock too, didn't he?

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He's a sick man....I like it

Mike

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I am in the process of having my first rifle (Mauser FN 30-06 Dad gave me when I was 14) rebarreled to the 416 Taylor as a pet project. This is my first try with a wildcat and I hope to use it on a future buffalo hunt. Good hunting, Joe
 
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osculate----well kiss my grits if I can remember what that word means----I used to know but I'll kiss a skunk's perineum if I know now----or maybe not.

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HI,

Thanks for the information I am sure learning a lot on this site. Thanks,Kev

 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kev:
Hi Kev,
My 416 Taylor is built on a Ruger77 MK1 with the tang safety. It has a 24 inch Douglas barrel and will get 2400 fps with RL15 and the 400 grain Hornady and 2500 with a 350 grain bullet. It is devestation on Moose size game and sports the same old Rigby ballistics that have been droping Buffalo for decades. It's a real good cartridge. My rifle with a 1.5 to 5 Leupold weighs 9.25 pounds and sports a triple X Pachmayer recoil pad. Set up like this it is a piece of cake to shoot. Good luck with your project.
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Posts: 1247 | Location: Sechelt B.C. | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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I love my Taylor. It is built on a VZ24 action using Adams and Bennet barrel. Very accurate at the 100 yds I practice. Loads are simple to make up and bullet selection is very good. Make one and enjoy.
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You can keep your silly little ruger rifles-no one wants them anyway, Stay away from pre-64 model 70 actions and rifles as they are too good to waste on the great unwashed!
My taylor loves 72 gr. IMR 4895 and with 400 gr. Swift A frames at 2350-into a half inch, it is devistating. Laminated stock and weighs only 8.5 lbs with Kales 1.25-4.5.
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My, oh my--seems like a bit of gluteal osculation is heading your way, Doctor!

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Andy,

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