Ethics and Hunters

29 November 2011, 22:54

JohnHunt

Ethics and Hunters

Actually it looks to me like DawnRoar has bamboozled everyone.

We aren't talking about unethical PH's, newbie African hunters, and shooting baby elephants anymore are we. No we are arguing about some stuffed shirt lawyer. So he takes some heat for his client on this site... no biggie so long as the conversation is steered away from his client.

The entire hunt was a fiasco and the client should be refunded every dollar.

The booking agent has far more tools to extract money from the hunting outfit so the responsibilty lies there.

29 November 2011, 23:42

BaxterB

I don't give DR that much credit. COnversation has turned from the others involved because they've been written off already. Now, it's DR who is written off. If that is what DR wanted to do, have his client, his client's client and himself written off as pathetic, then he's done a good job, but I don't think anyone thinks better of the situation just because DR is supposedly martyring himself to protect his client.

29 November 2011, 23:53

BrettAKSCI

quote:
Originally posted by mark65x55:
One of the questions I keep asking myself, and don't recall being answered, is how did DR learn of the buffalo wounding. DR is the one who first brought it to the table, so I'm guessing AC told him and in what context? While I believe in honesty and ethics, I would have a BIG problem the a booking agent sharing my hunting information, good or bad, with a third party without my consent.

This is what I've been wondering as well. While I relize Adam isn't held to the same standard as I am with my patients or a lawyer would be with his clients I do feel it's a pretty signifigant breech of trust to "leek" info to a friend to post on the internet. IF Adam did that I have little respect for that action. I recognize that he was put in a difficult spot, but sometimes we have to take the higher road.......including not leeking information damaging to your client......even if it might make you look better (which is questionable).

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30 November 2011, 00:26

mark65x55

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I see we have something in common.

30 November 2011, 00:30

mark65x55

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
COnversation has turned from the others involved because they've been written off already.

Bingo. Did not take long to see that the six players involved were losers in some way.

30 November 2011, 00:41

Frostbit

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Originally posted by mark65x55:
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
COnversation has turned from the others involved because they've been written off already.

Bingo. Did not take long to see that the six players involved were losers in some way.

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30 November 2011, 01:04

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quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
I really doubt that AG bribed the game scout without the consent of the PH.

And I doubt that it was the first time that PH had bribed the game scout

30 November 2011, 01:07

larryshores

Yup!

30 November 2011, 01:13

BaxterB

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
I really doubt that AG bribed the game scout without the consent of the PH.

And I doubt that it was the first time that PH had bribed the game scout

Exactly...and that goes back to my older comments on the balls it takes to bribe someone who may decide to bribe you back to avoid being turned in to the authorities. That fear was likely lost due to past incidents of the same. It's not being scared as I was called, it's being prudent. What a debacle this whole damn thing has become.

30 November 2011, 08:09

JBrown

quote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
quote:
Originally posted by mark65x55:
Did not take long to see that the six players involved were losers in some way.

?

Adam, Mark and DawnRoar, Wayne and Tim, and AllGone.

I don't see Mark as part of this, but others seem to think he is one of the players.

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