Anyone seen it yet??

I have seen it and I LOVED IT ! But then again I produced it !!! Seriously though, we are really proud of the film and it is ready to ship. WWW. CRAIGBODDINGTON.COM
It is more of a hardware film when compared with our more traditional hunting films, but there is a lot of hunting and shooting footage used to make a point on caliber, bullet, or action type. Lot's of historical rifles included, all the big nitro's .577.600, and .700. and much more. If you enjoyed African Rifles books 1 & 2 you will really enjoy this film. We debated long and hard on the merits of a
"rifle film" but got convinced by lots of folks that a film of this sort would have a market, and as we are rifle nuts ourselves, we pulled the trigger and Boddington On African Rifles is the result.
I would very much welcome feedback from the AR family and I hope that this project fits a niche in the market that has been largely ignored to this point as far as a film goes. All the best, and it is our sincere hope you enjoy the DVD.
Cheers
Dave

Dave.....send me a copy and I will promptly turn off my wife's "Housewives of Wherever" show from my big screen, watch it, and give you a personal PM with my unbiased opinion.

Gary
DRSS
NRA Lifer
SCI
DSC

what Garby said! Plus One!

OK, I ordered it for Christmas.

Rich

Dave, any thought to rewarding fans who go to the trouble and expense of attending the DSC show a price break instead of boosting the prices for the show?

I'm looking forward to getting this DVD and I'm sure it will be another very informative and entertaining video...

gbanger
Not really clear on the "boosting prices for the show" comment, but I will try to clarify. The price on all our Boddington DVD's is set at $39.95
That price is in effect whether you buy direct from Safari Classics or one of our distributors. With that said, our customers who buy at the shows will save the shipping fee, so there is that break. Even better in our mind is the chance to shake hands with you and say hello in person ! Hope you will come by and see us at the shows.
Good hunting
Dave

Dave,
Your price is perfectly fair. The cost of the DVD is about 1/2 of the cost of a box of Federal Premium .375 H&H 300gr. TSX rounds.

It is worth the price in saved ammo alone if it keeps you from buying and shooting and flinching and then selling a .458 Lott like I did.

Hi Dogcat
I agree with that line of thinking. The subject matter is, as you know, fairly subjective as Craig repeatedly points out in the film. You won't here any "this is the only gun, bullet, action type" statements. We tackle the subject from a variety of angles that we feel are the most relevant to the topic at hand, but stay away from the "this is the only way to go" stuff that dominate so many gun discussions. As for price, if anyone knew how much effort goes into our films, from travel, equipment, sweat, marketing, time away from home etc... we would probably be laughed at by anyone with a business degree! But they are a labor of love , directed by our personal passions, and we are very blessed by the overwhelming acceptance our
films have enjoyed since we released Boddington On Buffalo. I hope the AR boys will enjoy it and the feedback will be positive. Thanks for the comments Amigo.

Dave, sorry you might have been offended by my comment. I know you produce videos. Last year at the show, I bought Craig's 2nd African Rifles book. I was really standing in line to say hello again to Craig and meet Ivan Carter. Craig was signing everything anyone brought up and being friendly and as gracious as possible under the circumstances and accidently started to sign a book to someone instead of a DVD. He realised his mistake only after he had written "To so and so". He started to put the book back behind him when I spoke up and said I'd take it if he would knock of 10 bucks. It was really an attempt at humor to break the tension, but he said that sounded like a good deal to him and he finished the inscription after the other guys name "Oops to ...". I only mentioned an inflated show price because when I got home I noticed a sticker with a price and bar code over the price and bar code on the back of the book. It matched my $10 discount.

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Originally posted by gbanger:
Dave, sorry you might have been offended by my comment. I know you produce videos. Last year at the show, I bought Craig's 2nd African Rifles book. I was really standing in line to say hello again to Craig and meet Ivan Carter. Craig was signing everything anyone brought up and being friendly and as gracious as possible under the circumstances and accidently started to sign a book to someone instead of a DVD. He realised his mistake only after he had written "To so and so". He started to put the book back behind him when I spoke up and said I'd take it if he would knock of 10 bucks. It was really an attempt at humor to break the tension, but he said that sounded like a good deal to him and he finished the inscription after the other guys name "Oops to ...". I only mentioned an inflated show price because when I got home I noticed a sticker with a price and bar code over the price and bar code on the back of the book. It matched my $10 discount.

I bought Boddington's book last year at the DSC show, but bought it from the Roland Ward booth, and they tacked $10 onto the sticker as well. I paid for it with a credit card, and didn't realize the price boost till my bill came in. I knew the price of the book, and just assumed that the price was the same there as well. It isn't a big deal because the book was worth the price, but it torqued me when I saw the bill! I've bought Boddington's books from him, and the price was always as advertized. I will buy the DVD from Boddington at the DSC show in Jan.

Not to mention that Craig throws in a big smile and and autographs the book/DVD at no extra charge!!

I can't wait for Reno...

Rich

OOOOOPS. Gbanger and all, here's the truth on that sticker: My infallible publisher goofed! For several years now the retail on my books from Safari Press has been $39.95. Safari Rifles II (we call it "SR2") is a whole lot bigger, and the price was always supposed to be $49.95. But the dust jackets on the entire first run were printed at $39.95 by mistake, out of habit. So the poor folks at Safari Press put a sticker, BY HAND, on every single book in that first run. That's the truth, as silly as it sounds. I have never been privy to marking up a book at a show, and I have never charged extra for a signature. (Which, after all, is the only hook we have on our website.)
Conventions are a blur, Holy Shit, but I actually do recall clearly that incident when I started to sign a book rather than a DVD--and Gbanger was kind enough to take it off my hands. Now that I think about it, at my house I have several books that I started to inscribe...and then I realized (or Donna slapped me into realization) that I was signing the wrong book. Where is Gbanger when I need him????
The new African Rifles DVD is quite different from anything we've done. It's a huge subject, no way to do it completely or perfectly, so I'm sure a lot of favorite cartridges are left out--but I think Tim Danklef and Dave Fulson did a fantastic job on the production. I'm very pleased with it, and I think of it as a very good extension of the Safari Rifles books. I sure hope you enjoy it.
Cheers, C

Hi Craig

I will look forward to your video.

I really enjoyed John Taylor's book, and Gregor Woods book even more.

I wonder if you have ever crossed paths with Mr. Woods?

Some of us can't get enough information and just love "jawin" about hunting rifles- so thanks in advance, I am sure it will be a very successful endeavor!

i would love to see the video, but everythings reach here in swedn very much later as usual
cheers
yes

Love Gregor Woods' work, attention to detail and history is fantastic. Have corresponded with him off and on for years, but don't really know him. Wish I did! Yes, didn't realize you were in Sweden. Hunted moose there with the Norma folks a month ago, I didn't get one, but what a beautiful country! Cheers, C

Here's another customer for African Rifles. I only have two, but I love the minituae on the various big bores and the more I learn about things, the better I feel...

Edit:

Just ordered mine. Christmas present to myself...

Craig, I suspected Safari Press of the boost, not you. Glad to get the story. I plan to make the show and get the dvd. I also plan to bring my copy of your first Safari Rifles book. I would hope you would be honored by how ragged the dust jacket looks from all the use!

I just finished watching it. Great video thats full of good info. There's a Rigby sidelock DR that I drooled over every time they showed it

Unfortunately I have not seen it yet...I do not think it is available here in the RSA yet?

I browsed through "Safari Rifles II" at Rowland Ward the other day and I can tell you that is on my Christmas list.

Just ordered the DVD, and really looking forward to getting it

Torbjørn

Just finished watching the DVD and I loved every second of it. It is really well done and would be a great help to any Africa bound hunters. It is a good opportunity to see some extraordinary guns and get some good advice.

Craig, perhaps you would care to elaborate on Terry Wieland's quote of you which I read in the current issue of Rifle Shooter. Seems like you and Terry have a blanket condemnation of anyone using rifles such as 577 Nyati or larger as "too big for anybody to handle"? Your quote? And this month in another magazine, you reported hunting yourself with a 600NE?

http://forums.accuratereloadin...4711043/m/3921021221

I never hunted beyond NA, but big big bores sound fun...

Just ordered it......

Mac

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Originally posted by fourbore:
Craig, perhaps you would care to elaborate on Terry Wieland's quote of you which I read in the current issue of Rifle Shooter. Seems like you and Terry have a blanket condemnation of anyone using rifles such as 577 Nyati or larger as "too big for anybody to handle"? Your quote? And this month in another magazine, you reported hunting yourself with a 600NE?

http://forums.accuratereloadin...4711043/m/3921021221
I never hunted beyond NA, but big big bores sound fun...

Fourbore, below is what i posted on the linked thread in regard to the article by Terry W

Personally I don’t think Terry was saying you shouldn’t shoot the ultra big bores if that is what you want. IMO what he was saying is, I think, that most of the really big bore rifles made never go anyplace but to a local range, and never see the bush of Africa. I believe that is a very true statement.

The fact is you may hunt with what ever floats your canoe, or you can simply enjoy going to the range and poking holes in paper targets. OR you can go to Africa and shoot an elephant or two with those cannons. Nobody, including TW, or CB is telling you otherwise. The opinion that those bores are not needed is also a valid opinion, and one I personally share. That however doesn’t hinder anyone else from doing it.

IMO, the rifles bigger than a 577NE are NOT NEEDED, for anything we hunt today, and in fact, the reasons they are not seen in the fields much is not many people are willing to put up with their draw-backs, and secondly, the price of them is a factor, that most will not front even if they could. I would say that for every double rifle chambered for an over 577 chambering, only maybe 5% of them will ever be hunted for anything that will even come close to justifying the chambering. Most will, as has been said, will never shoot anything but paper. Back in 1954 when the 458 Win Mag came out in the mod 70 Win, a lot of people I knew, including myself, went out and bought the first one they found on a dealer’s shelf. Of all the guys I knew who bought them never went to Africa with those rifles, again including me. I found the cartridge to not be reliable, and sold mine before going to Africa, and used an FN Mauser 375 H&H instead for my first buffalo. Today the largest cartridge double I own is a 470NE, and I’d rather have a little 10# 450/400NE 3” or a 450NE 3 1/4" because that is all I need for anything I want to hunt in Africa.

As many have said, what does need have to do with it? That is a true statement as well! Need has nothing to do with the choice of any rifle, or even the choice to own one at all.

Now that my opinion is known, before you start with the experience with ultra big bores, don’t even go there because I have shot just about everything that can be shot from the shoulder, and many that can’t and had to be hauled by a halftrack or tank, and I have never found a need to try to empress the local deer hunters at the range with a “LOOK AT ME” big bore. The very big rifles are fun to look at, and are a topic of conversation where ever they are displayed, but I sold both of the 577NE doubles I had, not because I couldn’t handle them but because they were too damn heavy to carry all day,and killed no better than a 500NE double, and were unpleasant to shoot, and I find the 500NE is a better choice for hunting any dangerous game on the planet, and even that is not a must for anything.

So as Jeffeosso says OPINIONS VERY, and the above is mine, and is free for the taking, or leaving!
Lett her fly, I'm dug in!
.............. ................

Yes, I have it and I enjoyed it very much. I intend to watch it over and over. But Craig mentioned the trigger pull on a bolt gun and not on a DR. I was looking for that information and was disappointed.

quote:

IMO, the rifles bigger than a 577NE are NOT NEEDED

Madc,

The 577 Nyati is not bigger than the 577NE it is equall. And Terry included that in his tyraid. I question if he mis-quoted Craig on that- because, like I said, craig had another magazine article this month where he test fired a 700NE double and later hunted with a 600NE. The 600NE is a pretty big gun. The whole thing stuck me a coming off pretty arrogant by Terry. Certainly you could rephrase it into a reasonable point of view. Unfortunatley your words are not Terrys. Firing a 750 grain .585 bullet at +/-2100 fps is more than I could hunt with, some do and it has had a place for many years in the form of 577NE double. A double most shooters cannot afford. Terry never mentioned any 600 or 700 really big gun, just the 577 bolts. Those ctgs are all handload to what ever level the shooter is comfortable with for hunting or at the range.

quote:

Originally posted by fourbore:

quote:

IMO, the rifles bigger than a 577NE are NOT NEEDED

Madc,

The 577 Nyati is not bigger than the 577NE it is equall. And Terry included that in his tyraid. I question if he mis-quoted Craig on that- because, like I said, craig had another magazine article this month where he test fired a 700NE double and later hunted with a 600NE. The 600NE is a pretty big gun. The whole thing stuck me a coming off pretty arrogant by Terry. Certainly you could rephrase it into a reasonable point of view. Unfortunatley your words are not Terrys. Firing a 750 grain .585 bullet at +/-2100 fps is more than I could hunt with, some do and it has had a place for many years in the form of 577NE double. A double most shooters cannot afford. Terry never mentioned any 600 or 700 really big gun, just the 577 bolts. Those ctgs are all handload to what ever level the shooter is comfortable with for hunting or at the range.

Actually the quote that you copied above from my post was a typo foo-pah on my part! What I meant to write was IMO the 577NE or bigger rifles are NOT ACTUALLY NEEDED!.

That, however, was my fault, and to explain, the 500NE hits considerably harder than the 470NE class, and penetrates far better than the 577NE,and larger, so again, IMO the 500NE is about the practical "top-out" in big bore, for the reason that as cartridges get bigger, the draw-backs start to multiply fast. From below the 500NE they are far less noticable between the .400 up to the 500NE.

Still there is no reason anyone shouldn't use a 700NE if that is what he wants to use, and I think that was the jist of what TW was trying to get across, but maybe I missread him.

One question I have though! How does everyone know whether TW has experience with big rifles or not? I certainly don't know that. Simply because a person doesn't see the value out weighing the negatives of an ultra big bore doesn't necessarily mean he can't handle one, just the he sees no reason to do so.

I want to appoligise for leading this thread astray and Hijacking the thread on Boddington's
DVD on African rifles. I thorughly enjoyed his book African rifles I and II, and look forward to the DVD as well!

In any event as long as it is legal, we may use what we wish, and though the ultra big bores are not for me, they are certainly for someone, or they wouldn't be made, but NEED is not the reason they are!

.............Good shooting with what ever you want!

When you see the episode in the video when the elephant bull explodes out of the tree in the hunter's laps you'll start looking to go larger with your big bore. It is an awesome scene!

I RECEIVED MY DVD AND THROUGHLY ENJOYED IT. LOTS OF INFORMATION AND WELL DONE.

Hi Guys
Thanks for the positive comments on Boddington On African Rifles. I hope it ends up in a lot of AR members Christmas stockings this year!

I guess it'll probably take another 6 months to hit Africa!

Steve
Will you be at the shows? If not, if you know someone close to you who is coming over tell them to find me at the Chifuti Safaris booth and I will give them one N\C to take back to you. I want your input and it will be my pleasure to get you one. But hope to see you in person!

Dave,

That's helluva kind of you! Thanks very much!

I'll get Tony Tomkinson to swing by and pick it up for me.

'Fraid we're far too tied up here to make it over there ourselves ...... as much as we'd like to!

Thanks once again!

Craig, will you be at the Dallas show and what booth? I want to get an auto copy of your safari rifle book for my son. He is bonkers over safari rifles and should love your book.
Thanks

Just ordered another one for my African hunting buddy as a Christmas gift. Don't spend all my money in one place, guys...

I just finished watching it and thought it was a great DVD. I liked the way CB simplified caliber choices and had a practical approach to rifles. As Dave Fulson had said in an earlier post, I did not hear any "this is the best " or "you have shoot XYZ for buffalo." Overall a great DVD well worth the price.

WLA

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WLA:
I just finished watching it and thought it was a great DVD. I liked the way CB simplified caliber choices and had a practical approach to rifles. As Dave Fulson had said in an earlier post, I did not hear any "this is the best " or "you have shoot XYZ for buffalo." Overall a great DVD well worth the price.


Just got mine and watched it. Enjoyed it very much. It's non-judgemental, which I really liked. The often-maligned .458 Win seems to still be proving itself. Some beautiful shootin' irons in the vid. Well done.

Morning boys
Yes, Craig will be in the Chifuti \ Boddington.COM
booth at Dallas and Reno signing books and DVD's. Glad to see the feedback so far is very positive on our new release, thanks for posting your thoughts. Please come by and say hi at the shows. It is always nice to put faces with fellow AR posters.
Merry Christmas to everyone and hope your hunting season is shaping up well.

I received the DVD on saturday, watched it and enjoyed it. It is an great and informative DVD

It just took 10 days from the order and until I received it. Thats a quick delivery