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I just ordered a sample pack of .300 RUM from Superior ammo including TSX 180 & 200, Swift A-Frame 200, TBBC 200 and Woodleigh 200. I am trying to find a round that my finicky rifle likes. I'm pretty familiar with all of these bullets with the exception of the Woodleighs. Anybody have any thoughts as to their use on Springbok, Oryx, Kudu and Zebra? ______________________ I don't shoot elk at 600 yards for the same reasons I don't shoot ducks on the water, or turkeys from their roosts. If this confuses you then you're not welcome in my hunting camp. | ||
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I used 250 gr Woodleigh Weldcores in my .35 Whelen in 2006 to take gemsbok, impala and kudu. Bullets recovered from gemsbok and kudu weighed 225 and 229 gr, and were rather widely mushroomed. Both animals died quite promptly, so I have no complaints. Ranges were 90 and 50 yards, approximately; MV of 2500 fps. Bullet whistled right through the impala, as did the 400 gr Weldcores out of my .404 Jeffery that I used to cull two blesbok. Don't think I would have any big qualms about using a 200 gr Woodleigh on plains game out of any .30 caliber from .308 on up. DN | |||
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DC I have used the 165 Trophy Bonded Bearclaws and the 180 Barnes MRX in my [my wifes actually, she used it as well in Zim] in a 308. I have used the 200gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaw in my 300 Win Mag on elk and red fox, and I have used the Woodleigh 286gr Soft in my 9,3x74R double for a lot of game, including cape buff, and I have used both 480 gr Woodleigh Softs, and 500gr Swift A Frames in my 450 No2 on eland and cape buff. All of these bullets have performed excellently. Those that were recovered looked perfect. SO... Whichever bullet shoot the best in your 300 would be the one to use. If several of them shoot equally well pick the one you like the best. In the 300 the Trophy Bonded Bearclaw is a favorite of mine. I have recovered them from elk at a little over 100 yards, from elk at 357 yards, and in Alaska from a red fox at @ 275 yards. The bullet from the red fox was recovered in the snow by the eskimo native that was with me. ALL of them expanded perfectly. My wife and I have had excellent results with the 165 gr TB in the 308 as well. She used them in the 308 in Zim for Zebra, Wildebest, & Impala. All the ones you have named are great bullets, I would be perfectly happy using any of them on the game you have mentioned. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Also let me add that I have fired Superior ammo in several different calibres, including double rifles, and have found their "stuff" to be most excellent. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Thanks guys. My gun shoots the Scirocco's fairly well, the TBBC's a little worse and flings Nosler partitions all over. Not a problem with elk at 100 yards but I'm worried about Springbok at 300..... Hoping something Superior sends me makes this gun happy! ______________________ I don't shoot elk at 600 yards for the same reasons I don't shoot ducks on the water, or turkeys from their roosts. If this confuses you then you're not welcome in my hunting camp. | |||
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Their solids are great but the softs are too soft. Australia I love a sunburnt country, A land of sweeping plains, Of ragged mountain ranges, Of drought and flooding rains. I love her far horizons, I love her jewel-sea, Her beauty and her terror The wide brown land for me! | |||
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Wombat. Is that a general statement about Woodleigh softs, or are you refering to the original question regarding the 300 RUM? If I can hijack the thread a bit further... I loaded some 250 gr Woodleigh RN in my 35 Whelen, but only one moose so far. A broadside shot behind the leg and the bullet passed right trough. So far so good, but nothing to make statistics about though . Arild Iversen. | |||
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Woodleigh make two types of expanding bullet and they're very different from each other. They make the SP which in an African context is most suited to cats because it expands quite quickly and they also make the PSP, which is more suited to Cape Buff etc. Whichever you use, you need to pay strict attention to the instructions on the box. If you stick to the terminal velocities stated there, you'll find them hard to beat. | |||
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Steve. I also bought a pile of Woodleigh RN 250 grainers for the 338 Winmag. I´m taking the rifle to RSA for PG i May, and had actually planned to load up the RN for this trip. Biggest this time will be zebra and waterbuck. Do you think they will be to "soft" for these critters? Or shall I go for the 240 gr North Fork I also have on the shelf? Arild Iversen. | |||
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Arild, If you mean the Woodleigh SP when you say RN, I would expect them to knock the animals down very well indeed with that calibre...... but like I said, you need to be sure you keep within the stated parameters of terminal velocity on the box.- Probably better than the NF for those species. | |||
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Try some Accubonds. They are as accurate as ballistic tips but still perform. | |||
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Superior Ammo's site just refers to a "Woodleigh Soft". I will have to ask them for an estimated velocity given my barrel length I guess. I originally wanted to try Accubonds, but the person I spoke to said they weren't appropriate and suggested the Woodleighs instead?! Woodleigh's site seems to recommend a maximum velocity of 2900fps. The 180 TBBC's I have are leaving the barrel at around 3200fps. I have had some interesting bullet performance on game with this rifle and really feel like heavier bullets are the way to go. ______________________ I don't shoot elk at 600 yards for the same reasons I don't shoot ducks on the water, or turkeys from their roosts. If this confuses you then you're not welcome in my hunting camp. | |||
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DC Roxby The velocity figures on the Woodleigh boxes is impact velocity, but I guess you have that figured out alredy And Steve, yes the RN is the older soft nose/round nose bullet type. It looks pretty classic loaded in the brass though Arild Iversen. | |||
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I love the Woodleigh bullets, been using them for years, if you use the right bullet you will never have a problem short of one that missed inspection, but that applies to any bullet. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I used the Woodleighs in my 375 H&H and they worked great. That being said, you are probably going to overdrive them in a 300 RUM unless you plan on loading it down to 3000fps or less. Personally, I use 180gr TSX in my RUM for elk driven to about 3400fps. That load should take care of anything you see on safari. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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You can consider the gs custom 150gr aswell the can handle speed and penetrate well "Buy land they have stopped making it"- Mark Twain | |||
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Just another note. Shot a Cape buffalo bull, quartering on, hitting the point of the shoulder at about 40 yards with a factory .470 Nitro Express. The bullet broke the shoulder but didn't penetrate beyond the joint space. The round didn't even bruise the interior chest wall. Too soft it seems. | |||
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