Pay back time. You guys and your advise has helped in the past, so here's some pay back.

I picked up a can of Outer's Foaming Bore Cleaner (Gunslick is the same product from what I can tell, I use the both). You put the plastic nozzle in the chamber and squirt the cleaner in, until it comes out the muzzle. The can says to wait 30 minutes, however after some trial and error, I've waited as long as 2 hours after shooting a rifle match. No brushs are used, just run a patch down the barrel(s) and it comes out black and blue. The barrel is without a trace of copper or powder fouling. The white foam turns a beautiful aqua-marine blue. No smell and as far as I can tell, it hasn't hurt the finish of my stocks.

I had some rifles I "thought" were clean, like by match AR and M1A's, until I tried this product, it's unbelievable. It costs between $6-$8 per can and after 50 rifle barrel cleanings, the first can just went dry. I shine a flash light down the muzzle end (unloaded of course) to see if I can see traces of copper, with this, none. Give it a try and you'll have hours of time on your hands you use to spend cleaning rifle barrels.

Now try Wipe Out foam, its even better..tip: place a surgical tube over the outlet and plug the chamber with a wood dowell..push the tubing down the barrel and squirt it quickly in short squirts until thd foam pushes the tubing backout the barrel, let Wipe out stand for 15 to 20 minutes, repeat if necessary..some let it sit overnight, I don't.

Wipe-out also now has an accellerator that you use before the foam. It is the cat's meow.

I'll cast a dissenting vote on both products. It takes several overnight applications to remove all the fouling. I've tried this on three different rifles: It takes about 4 applications tog et the patches to come out clear. Then I took the rifles to the range and fired a 6 shot string. Took them home and it took three further overnight applications of either product to remove all the copper and powder. Yes it saves time, but definetly not cost effective. jorge

I will have to agree with Jorge. While they do get a barrel clean, it takes several applications and is very messy. If I am really interested in getting a barrel totally clean, them the Outers Foul-Out electrolytic system works much better.
I like Ray's idea of the dowel, maybe that will help keep the foam out of the action. Come to think of it, maybe the "corks" from the foul -out system can be used to seal the chamber. The solution in Foul-Out really gums up the magazine, etc. if you don't get it all out.
Not sure I understand how the surgical tubing is used. How long a piece, etc?

I agree that in some cases it takes a couple of applications.

I find that it works better to run a brush with some Shooter's Choice through it first. Patch it out once and then run the Wipe Out through it.

I use some of those swabs that Midway offers to plug the bore. I also use Ray's trick of some sugical tubing.

I'm still trying to get my squirt timing down, though.

-Steve

I just wad up a piece of plain old paper towel and stuff it in the chamber, then give a one second burst and quickly put my finger over the muzzle. When the foam comes out of the gas vent hole I quickly towel it off with another piece of paper towel. Sometimes I use the Accelerator and patch the WipeOut out in 30-60 minutes. But usually I just leave the WipeOut in the bore over night. One caviat, I do run a couple of patches of Hoppes through at the conclusion as the WipeOut doesn't do as good a job on powder as it does on copper.

Geronimo

Hell, guys, I'll try anything. I'd have my PHd had I had a better way of cleaning rifle bores. Thx for the in-put.

I have Wipe Out in stock if needed. Works for me. I just thought I had my Sako 222 Mag. clean until I tried Wipe Out the first time. I too leave it in overnight esp. if I have had a big shoot and I too just wad up the paper towel in the chamber and shoot it down the muzzle.
May not have the great smell that I grew up on (Hoppe's #9) but it works for a lazy dog like me.
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