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I met a guy at a local gun show yesterday. I had my DSC hat on and we began to chat about Africa and guns. He told me that his PH had a male lion for his wife and two females for him to shoot in a Botswana cull hunt. I asked when he was leaving. "In August" he replied. He went on to say that the lions weren't going anywhere. Perhaps I am ignorant on such matters but does this sound legit? Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | ||
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DoubleDon, This is a guess on my part but I think those lions most likely are on a private fenced property somewhere. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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The male is Fred and his two girlfriends are Gladis and Wilma! | |||
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Good one there Boss-Man | |||
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I didn't want to run the flag on this guy, but it just didn't sound right. I privately wondered if he was doing a canned hunt in S.A. and telling everyone it was a fair chase Botswana hunt. Mark, does Botswana have high fence areas for lion? Deo Vindice, Don Sons of Confederate Veterans Black Horse Camp #780 | |||
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Don, I can't answer that for sure but I don't think so. That's why I didn't say that it sounded like a high fenced area in Botswana. The whole thing appears a little suspect to me. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Hunting the African Lion in Bots, is illegal, and has been since the season closed in September 2007! There are NO captive/bred lion facilities that I know of in Bots? Certainly the hunting of female lions was NEVER legal in Bots. Likely he's "hunting" the Kalahari in SA? There's apparently some outfit there now, selling a 7-day "wild" lion hunt, with Lions coming across from Bots - that are being hunted as legit, problem cattle killers! Really??? I guess now they can determine months in advance when a problem lion will show up and become a cattle killer. Keep in mind though, some of the biggest/baddest maned, wild lions, did in fact come from the Kalahari in southern Bots, that were in fact on Private land, but were also totally/completely wild lions. If you ever saw the lion that Steve Chancellor shot a few yrs ago, with Luke Blackbeard as the PH, that one was a prime example! | |||
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A lot of lions, as well as leopards, are shot in Botswana every year, but not by hunters. They are shot by cattle farmers with gov't blessing. No foreigner may participate in such a hunt, and no money can change hands. The trophies revert to the state where they receive marginal care and are sold at auction. I don't know the numbers on Lion, but I believe about 300 leopards are taken each year. The game farmers suffer predation losses but don't get to shoot Lions at all. About 12 permits are allocated by lottery to game farmers for leopard per year. Derek Brink gets 6 of them. These hunts can be sold as trophy hunts, and some are taken with dogs. I can tell you that Lion numbers have come back in some parts of Botswana (eg Hainaveld) to the point where game farmers are losing a lot of their game. Wild dogs same situation. I predict there will be Lion hunts in Botswana before long. It makes too much sense to allow the safari industry to participate in the control. Cat populations can burgeon just as fast as they crash. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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Certainly by now we all know better than to expect anything resembling common sense to be used by African governments. ...now that I think about it, most government activity lacks common sense regardless of the country of origin. . | |||
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On average, well over 100 lions are killed every year, and have for years in Bots - as "PAC", by Bots wildlife dept. Over 120 were killed in 2010 alone! Lion/Leopard have been doing well for years in Botswana, that was never the issue. Anti-hunting govt, the Joubert's, etc - have been the problem. Russ, I love your optimism - and I really wish that trophy lion hunting would return to Bots, but that ain't gonna happen! Certainly not anytime in the near future, and very likely - never! | |||
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certainly won't happen as long as Khama is president and probably not after he retires( if he ever does) Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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